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AE 448 – Expression: Get Cold Feet
G’day, guys. What is going on?
I hope you’ve been having a ripper of a week. I’m back again. It’s another Sunday and it is another expression episode, guys, and today’s episode is going to be a ripper. So, it’s going to be awesome. We’re going to be talking about penguins. That was the intro scene there that you had at the start. It was a video clip from BBC Earth’s YouTube channel. So, there’ll be a link in the transcript for that. If you love wildlife, definitely go check out that channel. But that was David Attenborough speaking.
I’m a massive fan of David Attenborough and it was his 92nd birthday probably two weeks ago on the 8th of May. He was born and a few days after the Queen of England. So, he’s 92 years old. Pretty crazy.
Anyway, a quick anecdote. Yeah. I grew up always watching David Attenborough films. So, my parents were both zoologists and they met at Melbourne University, I think, in the 70s, maybe the late 70s is when they met, and yeah, obviously got married, had kids, and we grew up with a heavy dose of wildlife. So, we would watch docos, we’d go camping, we’d go to the zoo. Absolutely loved animals. So, that was my sort of upbringing and obviously why I ended up going to university, the same university that they met at, and studying the same thing they did zoology.
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Anyway guys, let’s dive into today’s episode. We’ll be covering the expression ‘to get cold feet’, and this was suggested by Dan in the Facebook group. So, we’ll get into that.
But First let’s do a joke. So, the joke here is related to penguins. You know, had to connect these two things.
What Do penguins eat for lunch? So, penguins, the small little birds that live in the ocean. What do they eat for lunch? ‘Ice-burgers’. ‘Ice-burgers’. Do you get it?
So, Obviously, icebergs are those large pieces of ice that break off in Antarctica or in the Arctic, in the north… northern hemisphere.
And ‘burgers’ are obviously, you know, hamburgers or chicken burgers. They’re a kind of food where you have lettuce and cheese, bacon, other kinds of meat, and you have bread on top. That’s a burger, right? So, the joke here is ‘ice-burgers’.
Anyway, guys, today’s expression, ‘to get cold feet’, and you may also hear this as ‘to have cold feet’. So, let’s go through and define these words guys.
‘To have’. If you have something, you possess something, okay? You own the thing, you have the thing, you possess the thing.
‘To get’. If you get something you acquire that thing. So, you didn’t have it to begin with and then you got it, you acquired it, and now you possess it. And this can be physical things like, you know, a burger or it can be, I guess… well, still physical, but not like an item, okay? Like, you can get cold. You can get hot. You can get wealthy. You know? It doesn’t have to be something you can hold in your hands.
‘Cold’. ‘Cold’. I’m sure you guys know it’s the sort of… the temperature that is incredibly low. It’s not hot. If you’re shivering, if you’re out snowboarding in winter, you’re probably going to get cold.
And The last one here, guys, ‘feet’ the plural of ‘a foot’. This is the lower extremity of the leg below the ankle and you would usually stand on your feet. You would walk on your feet. You would run on your feet, right? Your foot, each foot, has five toes, a big toe, a little toe, and the three toes in between.
Anyway guys, what does the expression ‘to get cold feet’ mean? So, if you ‘get cold feet’ it means that you lose your nerve, that you lose your confidence, that you become timid, and it’s usually used as a polite way of saying… well, not necessarily polite, but a nice way of saying something like ‘to chicken out’, ‘to wuss out’, or ‘to bail on’ something and these are sort of phrasal verbs that mean to abandon something because you got too nervous, right? You wussed out, you chickened out, you bailed out.
So, where did this originate from? We’re not really sure but it originates from about the 19th century, the late 19th century, though again, the exact origin isn’t known. However, experts suspect that this expression may have something to do with the military, an environment which certainly offers a plethora of things to fear, situations to run away from, to bail on, to get cold feet from, and you would also imagine that there are plenty of situations where you could get cold feet, literally, in the army, you know? You’re running around in your boots and it rains, you got cold feet.
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So, as usual guys, let’s go through some examples of how I would use the expression ‘to get cold feet’ or ‘to have cold feet’ in day to day life. Okay?
So, example number one. Example number one is that you are at a wedding. Okay? And there’s a bride and groom, there’re two people who are about to get married. I mean, well, in Australia there’s gay marriage so it could be two grooms or two brides, but I imagine it’s a bride and groom in this example.
So, the bride hasn’t shown up. She hasn’t come to the wedding ceremony. And this is a classic example of where you’re likely to hear this expression. So, maybe she’s running late because of photography. You know, they’re trying to take photos of somewhere and she’s not happy with the photos. Maybe she is trying to do her makeup still or get her wedding dress on. Or maybe there’s transport issues, you know? Maybe they’re getting delayed because of that, the bridal party is getting delayed. Or maybe she’s changed her mind. Maybe she doesn’t want to get married to this guy anymore. So, she’s decided, “I’m scared. I’m nervous. I’m not confident about this decision. I’ve got cold feet.”. Okay? So, she’s got cold feet. She’s changed her mind. She’s lost her nerve, her confidence. She’s got cold feet. And if the crowd start murmuring, maybe they’re gossiping. It’s been a long time. She hasn’t shown up yet. They might be thinking, “Is she going to leave the groom standing at the altar because she’s got cold feet?”.
Example number two. Alright so pubs in Australia, these are places you can go and drink, and you can eat food, usually alcoholic beverages, and you’ll often see things like bands or single musicians playing at these venues. Pubs in Australia often have events called ‘Open mic nights’. So, ‘an open mic night’ is where you have the microphone for someone to sing into or play into… is it’s open for anyone to use. You just have to get in line. Right? You have to put your hand up and say, “I want to sing. I want to read out some poetry. Maybe I want to do some stand-up comedy.” Right? So, you’re a performer. You’ve gone to a pub. It’s a… it’s an open mic night, and you’ve told all your friends to come with you, because you want to get up and do some stand-up comedy or maybe you want to read a poem or maybe you want to sing a song. If your turn comes up, though, and you freak out, you get a little nervous, you lose your confidence, and you become timid, you might decide not to get up on stage and sing the song, read the poem, do some stand-up comedy. You’ve got cold feet. You have cold feet, because you’ve wussed out, you’ve chickened out, you’ve got cold feet.
Example number three here, guys, and this was something that I used to get faced with all the time. When I was doing jiujitsu my coach would always be hassling us, always asking us, always pestering us, trying to sort of guilt trip us into competing, because obviously he wanted the team to compete as much as possible and do really well. So, he would always be like, “Everyone needs to compete!”. I’m the kind of person that despite, you know, being able to create these kinds of podcast episodes and videos, I don’t like really being in front of a lot of people, to be honest, especially, when it’s like you fighting someone and there’s half a thousand people watching you. Okay? So, he would ask us to do this and quite often I would chicken out of entering the competition. I would wuss out. I would get cold feet. So, I would get too nervous. It would… the thought of standing in front of all these people and fighting someone else and potentially losing in front of all these people would give me cold feet. It would make me nervous. But imagine, okay, I did end to this competition. You could also use this expression if the time came to get on the mat and fight, so, they’ve said “Pete and…”, you know, the other guy “…Tim! It’s your turn to fight. Come out on the mat!”. If I ran away, if I didn’t show up, if I chickened out, if I wussed out, I’d gotten cold feet. I had become too timid and lost my nerve. Okay?
So, I hope you understand the expression, guys, ‘to get cold feet’ or ‘to have cold feet’. It is just to lose nerve, to lose confidence, and not do something. To bail on something. And then, if you want to kind of belittle the person a little bit and make it a little bit more sort of like you’re judging the person and making fun of them, you can say ‘to wuss out’, ‘to chicken out’, and then, just in general you can say ‘to bail on something’, which is just to leave something, to avoid something.
So, hopefully, those are some good phrasal verbs you can use when talking to your friends.
So, as usual, let’s go through a listen and repeat exercise, guys. This is your chance to practice your pronunciation. So, just listen then repeat after me, guys. Whether you want an Australian accent, whether you just want a prefect an American accent, a British accent, or just work on whatever accent you have, just try and say these words after me. Okay? Let’s go.
To get cold
To get cold feet x 5
A lot of stop consonants in their sentence, guys, when we’re talking about connected speech. A lot of stop consonants.
So, we’ll do this now using the conditional, guys. So, we’ll say “I would never get cold feet”. We’ll conjugate through that. And I’m going to contract a ‘would’ on to the respective pronouns for each sentence, right? So, instead of saying, ‘I would’, I’ll say ‘I’d’. Okay? So, listen and repeat after me.
I’d never get cold feet
You’d never get cold feet
She’d never get cold feet
He’d never get cold feet
We’d never get cold feet
They’d never get cold feet
It’d never get cold feet
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Anyway, before we finish up, I want to talk about fairy penguins or little penguins. Okay? So, today, we had at the very start of this episode a scene where David Attenborough was at Phillip Island talking about the smallest penguin in the world, the little penguins.
Now these guys weigh only about a kilogram and they only stand about 30 centimeters tall. They’re incredibly small and they are the world’s smallest penguins.
You can find these little penguins in southern Australia and in New Zealand in scattered colonies along the coastlines of these countries. And in Australia, you’ll find them all the way from out west in the city of Perth all the way east to Sydney, and then in the south, you’ll find them around Melbourne and in Tasmania. Okay?
So, if you come to Melbourne, though, they’re very easy to see, and you will see them at Phillip Island at night. This is probably the best place to go if you want to see them coming out of water and walking up the beach to their burrows. You can go to the Penguin Parade at Phillip Island and you can also see them at the St Kilda pier in Melbourne.
There are estimated to be about a million penguins left, these small penguins, little penguins, 32,000 of which live at Phillip Island. So, that’s pretty crazy. I guess, that’s only about 3.2%.
How do you tell the difference between a male and a female? That’s a good question. Well, you can’t ask them. So, you have to look at beaks. The adult females have a thin beak, much thinner than males, and the males have a distinct hook on the end of their beaks.
What do they eat? Every day, little Penguins have to go into the water, into the ocean, into the sea, and they eat up to 25% of their body weight, which is about 250 grams. And they’re eating fish like Barracouta, Anchovies, Red Cod, Pilchards, and even cephalopods like squid.
They can swim about two to four kilometres an hour, and for reference, humans can swim about six kilometres an hour.
Little penguins live in holes in the ground and we call these holes ‘burrows’, and this is a place where they can rest, they can nest, they can moult, and they can obviously get protection too from things like predators and extreme weather in Australia. Like, quite often it gets to about 40 degrees in summer and the best way to avoid that is going underground.
So, depending on the season, they can spend anywhere between 1 and 30 days at sea. That blows my mind. Imagine swimming around for a month. So, while breeding they return regularly to incubate the eggs and feed their chicks. So, that would be during the summer season. But during the winter season, they spend most of their time out to sea hunting for fish and squid for food.
These penguins don’t mate for life and if the breeding success of a couple of penguins is really low, they might look for new mates.
Little penguins lay two eggs similar in size to a chicken’s and both parents take turns incubating these eggs, which takes about 35 days.
Both parents then feed the chicks by regurgitating fish and squid caught at sea, and the chicks leave their parents and head out to sea for the first time at 7-11 weeks of age.
Their parents don’t teach them anything. They don’t learn how to swim. They don’t learn how to catch food. They don’t learn when they have the nest. It’s all based on instinct.
Penguins spend about 80 percent of their lives in the ocean. So, what’s that? One out of every five days on average they get out of the water. And on average, every single day they swim between 15 and 50 kilometres.
They’ve been recorded diving as deep as 72 metres. However, an average dive is between about 5-20 metres when they’re hunting prey.
Little penguins also have some really cool adaptations. Like all penguins, they have modified wings, which are called ‘flippers’, and the only flying they do is through the water.
They have a gland to spread oil on their feathers when they’re preening in order to keep the outer feathers waterproof so they don’t get soaked, they don’t get drenched and then get cold.
They have a streamlined shape, waterproof feathers on the outside of their body, a layer of down next to the skin to trap air and keep them warm under those waterproof feathers, and they also have a salt gland above their eyes, which helps them filter salt from seawater so they get access to freshwater.
Anyway, guys, that is the episode for today. I hope that you think little penguins are as bad-arse as I think they are.
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AE 448 – Interview: A Step by Step Guide to Moving to Australia to Study English with Lorena Yeves
G’day, guys. Welcome to this episode of Aussie English. Man, do I have a killer episode for you guys today!
So, I don’t know if you’ve seen it in the previous episode, but I’ve chatted to Lorena from Go Study Australia in a previous interview, and this episode was a 338. So, make sure that you go back and check that out if you would like to hear more from Lorena after this interview.
But today, I’ve got her, she’s from Go Study Australia, which is a company that helps English students, students that have come to Australia to learn English. This company helps them find jobs, find accommodation, find really decent schools, even get flights from some countries here at a discount. So, they’re free service, guys. I really recommend Go Study Australia if you guys need any kind of advice or help, whether you’re already in Australia learn English or you’re thinking about coming here.
So, Go Study Australia, definitely recommend checking them out.
Anyway, as it’s probably obvious, today I chat with Lorena about, effectively, a step by step guide to moving to Australia to study English. So, I set this up by saying, you know, imagine I am a foreign English learner from, say, Spain. What do I need to do? What is the step by step process that I need to go through in order to get to Australia, in order to get established in Australia, to find somewhere to live, to find a school, to get a job, to get food, to find friends, to socialise?
So, anyway, it is a great interview. Massive thanks to Lorena for spending about an hour chatting to me on Skype. I really appreciated her time, and I know that you guys are going to get a lot out of this.
So, without any further ado, guys, here is Lorena from Go Study Australia.
G’day guys. Welcome to this episode of Aussie English I have Lorena back again. Hopefully you saw the first episode with Lorena and if you haven’t, it’s episode 338 and there’s also a video on YouTube called How to study English in Australia… Go study in Australia. So Lorena Welcome back. How are you going?
Good, thank you.
Let’s start up! what is Go Study Australia? And give us a bit of your back story again. How did you end up living in Australia, working for this awesome company that’s helping people with their studying of English in Australia?
Yea sure! So I’ve been working for Go Study for five years. I started in Madrid and we… When I say “we” I mean my partner and I got offered this opportunity to come to Australia two and a half years ago and to come to the Melbourne office. So I started in Madrid. What we did there was help and guide students through their journey coming towards Australia and here in Melbourne what we do is more of reception. So Go Study Australia is an agency, or student organisation, that does… That gives help to students and working holiday visa makers come to Australia. We primarily help in the sector of studying. So English courses or vocational training or bachelor degrees. And the other part of our role or job is to guide students who are in Australia. We do a lot of events, activities, sort of give them support while they are here in Melbourne. We also have offices in Sydney and in Perth and in Brisbane. So I sort of give the all round support while they’re here in Australia.
And so I guess… How do people find you? First off for you to just get that out of the way… Is it a a cheeky Google search or can I come and see you at your office?
So our doors are always open. They can obviously write to us through our website or through our social media. If they Google Go Study Australia They’ll definitely find us… In the offices that we have here in Australia we always have our doors open so students can just come in and we have a lot of walk-ins with people that just need a little bit of help either finding a job or finding the right course for them or even just a little bit of help in terms of finding their way around Australia. So they can always just come to our office whenever they want.
Brilliant! And is this just students or… I guess people in Australia from any other countries? it doesn’t matter where or are they from certain countries that you guys cater for specifically?
So our main “catering” let’s say is just for European… European countries and Latin American countries. We recently opened offices in Bogota and Medellin, in Colombia. So hopefully we’ll all start catering to that to that area as well.
I mean that’s a huge market. There’s a lot of Columbians going to Australia!
Especially in Melbourne. So hopefully we’ll do a good job of giving them a little bit of support. But we don’t… I mean anyone can really just come in. Although our experiences, just in terms of visas, are experience is more towards Latin America and Europe. Other countries have variations. The visas are a little bit different so we’re not . .. Might not be the best agency for them.
So, if we just imagine me now being someone who’s living in Spain, Italy, France, or South America and I’m really really keen to learn English abroad, Why would you suggest Australia?
so Australia has a lot of good things compared to other English speaking countries. One of the best things is the work opportunities. Other English speaking countries don’t have as many opportunities in terms of jobs. So for example student visas for U.S. don’t come with working rights . So that’s where you go, you study but you can’t work. Canada has… I’m not really sure but there’s a limit, so there’s… I think up to the first six months you can’t work and Astralia is one of the only countries that lets students actually be able to work part time while they’re doing their studies. Another great thing about Australia obviously is that because it’s so far away from everything else there’s not a lot of people from your own nationality…
For now, for now right?
And that’s good because when you’re looking for a school or a place to learn English you don’t want to find yourself in a situation where you’re surrounded by your own nationality and your own language. That’s the only way that you can really make forward with language.
So what would be the next step? So imagine that I am in Spain. I’ve decided, you know what, I want to learn English overseas, I want to come to Australia. What is the next step for me to then do, with regards to making that dream come true or happen?
So there’s various ways that people can come to Australia. The one that is the most use is the student visa. So we are… In order to come to Australia with a student visa, the first thing obviously that you have to take into consideration is grabbing a course. So that’s where any of our offices offshore/onshore will be able to give a little bit of insight to the student depending on what you want to study: English vocational courses, higher education. Once you’ve chosen the course the next steps are doing a little bit of paper work and which we’ll obviously lend a hand and to do the actual visa. Once the visa is granted then the student can come into Australia. So the first… That’s sort of the most used visa, which will be the student visa
And so obviously you can do this all on your own. , You can get online you can find the school, you can coordinate with them. Then you can go and organise your visa, but you guys kind of are the shortcut if you want to make life easier for yourself. They can get in touch with companies like Go study Australia in order to sort of get a little bit of hand-holding so that they don’t have to do it all on their own.
Exactly yeah. In terms of pricing all of the courses will cost exactly the same whether you do it by yourself or if you do it through us. That’s a misconception. A lot of times people think “oh if I do it with an agency that means that I’ll be charged something.” No, actually we don’t charge anything to a student. Whether you do it by yourself and you do it everything through directly to the school or through the agency you will everything will be the same fee.
So you’re paying a set fee to the school and then you guys, as Go Study Australia, any money you receive isn’t from the students themselves but from the schools or from other organizations, right?
Exactly. So everything will be exactly the same… Sorry…
No no no, you’re good.
Can you hear the student come in?
A little bit, a little bit, but it’s fine it doesn’t matter. I can hear you clearly.
So, in terms of… In terms of pricing everything is exactly the same with the added value, obviously, that when you go with an organisation like Go Study, you obviously get the added bonus… The school… Usually when you do things directly with the school, the school obviously help you with the paperwork of the enrolment in the school, but they won’t be able to give you any support with the visa. So that’s where a lot of people actually find themselves in a little bit of a pickle. They’ll go directly to school, do everything because they think that it’s going to be cheaper , do everything through the school, and the moment comes when they go in to their immigration stage, try to do the visa and they get a little bit stuck. So it’s always better rate to have that added support from an agency. Not only for the visa but also throughout the entire journey, so you will assure yourself of obviously getting support throughout the entire time, not just for the visa, but to the entire time that you’re in Australia.
Brilliant! Alright, so where were we? Alright, so there’s obviously no excuse not to be using an agency like Go study Australia because it’s free. And so what happens if if someone comes to you for help and they don’t actually end up getting through the process of getting a school and everything, is that still free or?
So yeah. All of our services are free. We’re never going to charge students. So legally speaking we are only able to lend a hand… A tool in terms of visa to students that come through . .. That do the schooling through us . When students have done the entire visa process or, another visa process, but the school process by themselves, and we’ve had the situation right. So somebody goes to school, does everything by themselves, and then comes to the office… More than likely we will be able to obviously lend a hand. We won’t be able to be as involved in the actual visa process as we would to one of our students, but we would be able to sort of push them in the right direction. In terms of all of the other services, our parties, our seminars, our information sessions: All of that is open to anyone whether they are students or not.
So that they can use that as a learning experience, whether or not though they’re actually going to use those. Brilliant, brilliant! And so what would be the next step then? you’re a young man living in Spain, you’ve decided you want to come to Australia, you’ve gone through Go Study, you’ve found an English school, I take it. How do you guys pair up someone with the right English school, and is there any advice there for how to find an English school that suits you or is any school okay?
So the short answer is No – not all schools are okay. So there’s a there’s a lot of different things that one needs to take into account. The first thing, obviously, is we try to pair the student with the right school, in terms of quality and in terms of price, and so different schools will have different pricing. There’s a certain line of quality that Go Study Australia does not go under so there’s… We try to work with schools that have passed our quality standard – Our seal, Let’s say. there’s a… Obviously in terms of… That’s why you ask an agency to guide you through the process. Because we have the experience of letting you know which are the schools that actually are vouched for and which not. The other thing that we do, apart from the quality, is obviously matching what the student is willing to pay for the experience with which the pricing of the school. So the first thing that we do is… So this would happen once we’re trying to find the correct schools for the student. We’ll ask, obviously, what kind of experience they want to do what their goal is in Australia. What are they looking for in the end. So . .. Oh, and how much time they want to be here for. Let’s say that they want to be for six months and study English, then we’ll offer… Usually what we do is we offer three or four different schools, depending on what they have been telling us that they’re looking for, and try to match the student with the school. There’s a lot of schools in Australia, so we’ll never offer you all of the schools, just because otherwise we’ll, you know… We’ll make the student go crazy, so we will try to find two or three schools that might match and go from there.
And so what’s the price range usually? What are the options? What is the lowest sort of threshold, and what does it offer versus the highest part of that threshold, as well?
So in terms of English, more or less the price that we’re talking about is between $200 and $270 per week. For $200 per week, usually are schools that are all for night classes and are usually less populated, let’s say. $250, $270 are usually morning classes. Again it depends; Usually schools also offer a lot of different promotions. So at a certain point a school may cost usually $270 but they’re doing a promotion in which if you buy 10 weeks you’ll get two for free. So we also tried to work around those promotions to make sure that students can also a good value out of what they’re… What they’re looking for.
And what do these schools usually offer in terms of classes and hours? If someone wants to study in Australia they sign up with the school, is that, you know, eight hours a day every single day? is it 1 hour a day every single day? What are the expectations that the students should have with regards to studying English?
So student visas for international students will require the student to actually study 20 hours per week, minimum. And they will have to attend 80 percent of the school or the classes, otherwise they’ll be reported to immigration. So their stay in Australia is based exclusively on their compliance with the laws of their school, right? So usually schools will be between 20 and 25 hours per week, the minimum obviously being the 20 hours per week that they have to attend. It’ll be between four and five hours per hour per day. And they will, again, they will have to attend the 80 percent of the classes. There’s differing kinds of courses. So the most general course will be General English. It will touch a little bit of everything. A little bit of, you know, pronunciation, a little bit of speaking, of writing. Usually general English courses are better viewed for students that don’t have a lot of a level of English. And then you go in to more profound courses like IELTs preparation or Cambridge preparation, which is… Prepares the students to actually take the official exam. Those courses usually are a little bit more intense, and will give a little bit more work to the student.
And so what is there a… Is there a minimum level of English that you you must have in order to be that young man in Spain that leaves Spain and comes to Australia and gets into an Australian school, or get a visa? Do you need a certain level to do that?
Not for English. If you want to study vocational training or higher education you will have to have a previous level of English just because, obviously, there are more skilled courses and you will require to at least understand what’s going on in the class. Otherwise for English courses you don’t require any level of English , any previous level of English. We have students that come with very basic, basic elementary level of English. Those students will more likely go into courses like general English. More experienced, or people that have a little bit more higher level will try to go into more specific English courses.
Alright, so you’ve done that. You’ve organised which school you’re going to go to. I don’t know whether or not to touch on getting airfares for Australia. Is there any advice that you would have regarding how to get to Australia and how to save money doing so?
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Well, from Spain and Italy, we both have an agreement. So in Spain, I think it’s with Singapore Airlines and with Emirates, the students get a little discount from being our students, and if they go directly to the airline they’ll be able to get to, for example, Singapore Airlines will give the students the ability to, if they fly from Spain to Australia, they’ll have instead of 30 kilos of luggage they’ll be able to have 40. So it’s a little bit… They’ll have a little bit of extra room to bring personal stuff. Emirates will give them a little student discount. In terms of tips to get… I mean, there’s no real formula to get a cheap deal to come to Australia, it’s very far away. So usually prices are very standard and doesn’t really vary too much.
But it’s worth checking with you guys, just in case you know, that you have the option of either getting bonuses or more space to take stuff on the plane or to save a little bit of money ?
Oh brilliant, alright. Okay so you’ve got your flight. You get to Australia. You jump off the plane. What do you do then? Where do you live? And what are the options? And should you have organised that before getting on the plane, or is it okay to wing it and just get off the plane and you’ll be sweet?
So I think both of the options are okay. A lot of students prefer organising the first month of accommodation from Europe. The options usually are a little bit more expensive than if you just come into Australia and look for other options. Usually accommodation from Europe will cost… Will include obviously a family . .. Accommodation . .. The options are either family living within family, so you’ll . .. You’ll sleep with or live with the family and it’s included lunch, breakfast and dinner. The other option is the possibility of living in a student accommodation. But usually what we do recommend students is that they get a hostel for the first 10 days when they arrive here. It’s the cheapest option honestly. Come here and then once they’re here find a better… There’s heaps and heaps of pages – facebook pages, Gumtree. There’s a lot of places where you can actually then find better deals.
Is it a really good way to socialise first, too? To get to a hostel and meet a few other foreigners and other people travelling around and at least, sort of, hit the ground running with your social life and make some friends, right?
So I mean there’s pros and cons and everything right? Like everything in life. But if you get accommodation from Europe and you already organise the first month it’s going to be a little bit easier for you to, obviously, come you’re a little bit more relaxed. You have to think about having to find anything else.
And you got time to look, right?
Exactly. On the contrary it’s a little bit more expensive than if you just come and find a hostel. My recommendation usually is just come here for the first 10 days get a hostel. Meet a lot of new people at the hostel. Socialize. Start looking around… Once you arrive start looking with your… Especially in the school you’ll meet a lot of people and be able to find a better accommodation.
And I guess you would suggest don’t move in with people from your country . Like try and avoid organising a share house or something with other Spanish speakers or Italian speakers.
Yeah we see it a lot with people that want to travel together. Actually we get people that want to do the experience together. Two or three friends book the course, book everything together. We usually push them to go to different schools but sometimes they’ll want to go to the same school and that’s fine. Most of the schools won’t put them in the same class anyway. They try to divide nationalities so it is likely that even if they do come together that they will end up in the same class. But if they do all come together, what we do recommend is that at least they try to live separately. That way their experience will be more immersive. So it’s not the same as coming and living in a house full of people that you need to speak English with, otherwise you can communicate then being in a house with your mates from Spain and speaking in Spanish all day.
Well, not even that too. There is the language aspect of but then there’s the social aspect; If you’ve already got a friend or two friends here, you are a lot less likely to go out and try and meet people, and feel about pressure. No good. So what would hostel’s usually set you back, money-wise, per night? Do you have any figures off the top of your head?
I think a more or less we’re talking about maybe 30 40 dollars per night. So it really depends. There are some cheaper options if you share with eight people instead of with three or four. There’s various options, but usually it’s around to between 20 and 40 dollars per night.
And what’s it like renting in Melbourne? so you’ve you’ve come you’ve stayed in a hostel or you stay with a family for a short period of time. What would the next step be then for trying to find a house? What would you suggest people do and should they look for things like a shared house or should they try and get a house of their own? You know, on the on the bond. Get the bond paid and do that. Or I guess… what would you suggest?
Yeah. So when students arrive what we usually recommend is that they go into all of the Facebook pages on which people are renting a room. It depends on how much the student wants… How about how much they want to spend. Usually in a room if you share a room with someone else obviously will be cheaper than if you have your own room.
The answer is usually if you can if you can list them off the top of your head roughly…
In Melbourne you’re looking around between 150 and 200 dollars for a shared room. 200 250 for your own room. Again it depends. We have students that get really sweet deals and get their own room for 170. Get students that maybe you want to be more centralised than the CBD and pay a little bit more for your own room. It’s also a lot of luck. What we do recommend though is that unless you’re a going to be in Australia for a long time, and by a long time I mean a year and a half/two years, not going into getting an actual lease of the your own. It’s always there… There’s plenty of places that you can sub rent the room and it’s easier, also, to leave those places rather than having your own lease and having to have the hassle of having to find someone else to pick up your lease where you left it.
And they’re a lot less likely to give you a lease to a place of it’s only six months. They’re going to want the year, two years on that sort of thing. Okay, so for people who have kept up to now, schools are going to be between what? two or three hundred dollars a week, roughly? and then rent for a house might be slightly less than that. So you’re probably looking at between what? Maybe 450 to six hundred dollars for your weekly expenses with regards to what a school’s going to cost and rents going to cost. Do you have any quick advice with regards to groceries and food? How to find food here in Australia that’s affordable and the price that you’d look out for that as well?
So we always talk about when… Actually when students arrive we give them a little welcome package in which we give them a little bit of tips of when to do their shopping and where to find cheap stuff. In terms of groceries here, I can speak for Melbourne. That’s my experience. The cheapest supermarket is ALDI which any Spanish person will actually recognise because there are ALDIs in Spain as well. But other than that, usually Coles is pretty, relatively cheap. We do push students to also go to actually local markets like the Queen Victoria Market or the south market. It’s in terms of, you know, fruit and veggies it’s a cheaper option. We also try to tell them to stay within things that are in a season and so that’s something that sometimes we forget living in such a globalized world where we have everything at our hand. But if you usually stay in season in autumn you buy your mushrooms and in summer you buy your mangoes. Usually your you’ll stay within a good… a good budget.
And the food’s probably going to be better quality right? it hasn’t been frozen or traded or imported from a long way away. So what would people be looking at spending for groceries on a weekly kind of budget? Maybe one to two hundred dollars?
Yeah I would say maybe a hundred, a hundred and fifty dollars per hour per week. It also really depends how much how much food you eat.
And what your standards are, right?
Exactly. So I’m very tiny and I don’t need a lot so probably my intake is not as much and my partner who is like double my size. But yeah we’re talking about maybe a hundred hundred and fifty dollars per week in groceries. It also depends on the city that you’re in.
So you’re between maybe six hundred and seven hundred fifty bucks now a week. How can we offset that by finding a job, okay? So you’ve obviously had to pay for your school ahead of time and then you get . .. I guess to get the visa you kind of have to show that you have a certain amount of money to pay for things like accommodation and support yourself. What job prospects are there for people who are studying? And what are they allowed to do in terms of hours per week? and what are they likely to be paid?
So let me just jump back at a comment you made. So not all of the countries that come to Australia with the student they will need to show funds so. Countries like Spain, Italy, France – they will not have to show funds when they ask for the visa. In terms of the government, they can always ask whatever they want to, obviously. So they can still have the chance that they do ask. But usually in general terms that’s not something that you have to show. So you can have your little savings and have paid the school, and not necessarily have to show any funds to the government. Countries like Colombia will need… Or Brazil, they will need to show a little bit more stability.
And what amount of money would they need to accrue for those Columbian Brazilian listeners? How much would be a minimum amount of money to have saved up?
So usually we’re talking about 1600 dollars per every month that you want to be in Australia.
So more or less is what we are… Is what we would recommend.
So that’s why it really does depend on how long you want to stay. It’s not just that there’s a minimum that you need to arrive with, it’s your stay. Your length of time.
Exactly. And from that, once that come here we’ll give them all of the options are towords working. So we do a lot of job sessions. So you do jump sessions and Spanish and Italian and French, and we help all students with all of the processes and all of the steps that they need to take towards starting to find a job. So we’ll help them upon arrival also to talk about how to get the TFN and how to start their job-world in Australia.
And what is the TFN, quickly?
Yes, the TFN is the tax file number. it’s what all students or all people in Australia will need in order to be able to work legally in Australia. Once we apply for the tax file number then we can start legally working and looking for jobs. Our job will generally, depending obviously on what the kind of job and how many hours and everything but usually a student will be able to sustain him or herself in Australia while working their 20 allowed hours per week. So even if they did have… They paid out of the school from offshore. They came and they paid all of the fees and accommodation and everything. They’ll be able to pay for their everyday expenses with their job that they acquire here in Australia.
What kind of job opportunities are there and what is the amount of money they’re likely to be paid per hour?
So usually it obviously depends on a lot of factors but the majority of the students end up working in hospitality. That’s where the most jobs are available. Not because that’s the sector where there’s more jobs but because it’s a sector that is the most flexible with the student visa. So we have to remember that the student visa will allow the student to work only 20 hours per week while school is in session. They will actually be able to work full time when school is not in session. So when school is in session they’ll have their five hours per day that they’re in school or in their English course and then they’ll have the rest of the day to be able to work. Obviously that gives them roughly 20 hours per week to work. Casual working which is what students will likely get pays between 20 and 23 dollars per hour. So that should be able to cover the cost of accommodation, groceries and a little bit of… It depends on your way of life I think.
As a quick side note I was working at a restaurant in Melbourne called Portillo Rosseau which was a Spanish restaurant and I was just a waiter while I was studying and it was twenty five dollars an hour. Casual, flexible hours. So it is the kind of thing where you will get… you will get paid very well and I guess too… Should you make sure that you are doing it legally on the books as well? If you want to get paid the proper wage and not be taken advantage of?
Yeah obviously we always warn students there’s always going to be establishments that try to take advantage of the student. Generally speaking it’s pretty regulated so I wouldn’t… Like anything in the world, right, you always have to be wary about things that are legal or they take you out of the legality but generally speaking it’s pretty, pretty regulated. We also put students in contact with Fair Work in case they do have this problem of not getting paid or people that have been paid less than what they were supposed to. We have some success stories of people that, you know, didn’t know that they were being paid less than what they were supposed to, then finding out, going to Fair Work and actually going to court and winning. So Australia… That’s also one of the things that I love about Australia – is that it’s very regulated and that you will have the support of the government when it comes to the illegality that of establishments that do try to take advantage.
Well that’s what I’ve experienced a bit too. I mean I’ve in the past worked for establishments where they pay you what we get what we call “cash in hand”, where it’s off the books. It’s not legal. They give you the money but they give you… They require a certain amount of time. And they’ll generally pay you less than they would if you are on the books because they’re not getting taxed. So you do end up in that sort of situation it happens and maybe that’s your only option but I would say if you get… If you’re getting paid less than seventeen dollars an hour and they’re asking you to work more hours than say you’re legally allowed to be, I would be getting out of that situation and trying to find something better. And obviously if I can come and talk to you at Go Study to get advice and they can go to Fair Work too because I think the average Australian, too, won’t take too kindly to hearing about foreign people coming here and being taken advantage of. It pisses me off a lot.
That’ s a foreign person. if you don’t feel like it’s okay… if you feel uncomfortable about something that’s happening at work or even at the English schools, I take it, don’t just let it happen because of the language barrier or it’s a foreign country. Do definitely report it to someone and…
For sure, yeah! We always push people to actually report everything in the two instances. so if something is wrong at school we always push students to actually come and talk to us. That’s why we’re here: We’re here to help, we’re here to be able to support you, and if they are thinking that they’re being taken advantage of at work a lot of people have this worry “Oh! I’ve been working for two weeks. Cash in hand. I don’t like it. I think this is not what I’m supposed to do but I don’t want to report it because I am the one them working cash in hand!” Actually they are covered. Their work will not tell them that they’re the wrong ones, but the person that is in the wrong is the establishment that is paying cash in hand. So in that sense people who are… Think that they’re in… That they’re scared of reporting because they are working cash in hand, they shouldn’t because The wrongdoing is on the side of the establishment.
Exactly! If the government is going after anyone it’s not going to be you it’s the company. Alright, and so you’ve come to Australia, you’ve got the schools sorted, you’ve gotten housing sorted, you’ve got a job now. I guess, do you have anything to say with regards to the resume and how to get the job? Should you go to these places and hand them the resume yourself or can you do it online? What what sort of advice would you have?
We always tell students that 80 percent of the jobs that are available are not advertised online. So we always push students to actually go with their CVs, go around and give them personally. We are… In our job sessions that we do with our students, we help them with the creation of the CVs and adapting the CVs from their European version or their home country version to the Australian version. It’s a little bit different – it varies from country to country. But we try to adapt it obviously to Australian standards.
What do employers here usually want to see on the resume? Because I guess one key thing is, for me at least, working and handing out resumes. Keep it short and sweet, right? People don’t want to a novel. They don’t want you to hand them something like this and be like “I’m qualified!”.
So we always tell them to keep it short, keep it one page. And a lot of other countries you put a picture but in Australia you usually don’t include a picture.
Especially if you’ve walked in the yourself, obviously.
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Especially, yes. And another big thing is making sure that the jobs that you’re listing are things that will make sense with the job. So one of the most common things that, as international students we hear, when people grab our resumes, because we’re used to from Spain or Italy, to put it on is “You are all overqualified for this job!” So we tend to write everything that we’ve done and everything that we studied, so I’ll say “I have a masters degree in this and a bachelor degree in that and I worked in United Nations,” and then when they actually look at your CV and you’re applying for a waitress position they’ll say “Okay, well you’re overqualified. Why is someone that worked at the UN want to work in ah as a waitress?” So we always make sure that the student puts only the work that is related to the position that they’re asking for.
And that’s a really good point because that happens with us as well – with Australians here. I have to be careful when I go… when I went for jobs like that not to oversell myself because if they see that you’ve got you know a master’s degree and a bachelor’s degree and you’re wanting to do you know waiting they’re going to be like this guy’s going to get bored he’s going to probably want a better job that pays more, so he is not going to stay here. He is going to leave a few months after starting. And so yeah, only put down the work that’s relevant to that job. Great, and so what are the opportunities though, too? Are you likely to get, you know, once you’ve finished the English school are there places that you can get jobs where you could lead to permanent residency or living in Australia too? Are there jobs that people should try and aim for if that’s their goal as opposed to just working in a cafe or?
So there’s many different possibilities right. A lot of people will come to Australia love and want to stay further the best way obviously to stay further let’s say you haven’t been studying for six months. It’s going into vocational training. So studying something that will increase your CV, will increase your knowledge, will still be able to give you a little bit more time to be in Australia and find a more qualified job. If the goal is to migrate to Australia that is a conversation that should be done with a migration agent. There’s obviously certain jobs or certain fields in which it is more likely to get a sponsor or there are jobs that are more likely to lead to a longer stay in Australia. But again that is something that needs to be discussed with a migration agent.
And that’s going to depend on you, right? That’s going to be a person-by-person kind of thing.
And not only that it also depends on a lot of luck. So we have a lot of students that might come here for six months do an interview for a part time job in a let’s say architects studio and have the luck that they were trying to sponsor or that they really love the way you work or for whatever reason you land a sponsorship within six months of being here. and I have students that’ve been here for four years studying and I have never landed anything more permanent. So really also depends on how you move yourself around.
I think a good example of that for me was having a friend who I worked with at the restaurant at Portillo Rosso who was Chilean and she’d come to Australia with her boyfriend who was studying at university on a partner visa, but she ended up becoming a shared manager of this restaurant. And then as a result of that… So she’d worked as a waitress and then got sort of promoted to managing and through managing they could sponsor her then to permanently live in Australia, potentially at least for the next four years, and so that’s something to think about too. When you get one of these jobs in a cafe you may still be able to climb the ladder and get an important role that they could then sponsor you for to keep you’re in Australia.
Now one of the biggest tips that can be given to the student who comes to Australia maybe likes or wants to stay is to remember that they can move diagonally within their sector so that even if they did study microbiology in their home country maybe they come here and they start working in the restaurant. If their goal is to be able to stay here maybe they will have to sort of explore the possibility of you know going towards restaurant manager or move diagonally towards a different goal than what they thought that they wanted to do.
And so what have you found with students who have come to Australia and they’ve done these English courses, they’ve got their English to a really good level, they’ve got a decent job like this. What tends to be the outcomes after that. Do they end up, you know, getting hired getting PR here? migrating to Australia or travelling Australia or do they end up leaving Australia? What tends to be the patterns of what happens?
So it really actually is interesting because it really depends on, and this is very broadly speaking, but it depends a lot on nationalities. So different nationalities would look for different outcomes for them in Australia. So generally speaking for example the Spanish student will look to have an experience here in Australia. Will be here for generally a year or two years and then they’ll go back home. Italians, on the contrary, will come here and will try to stay here forever and ever. So it really depends on where they come from or what their goals are. Generally speaking let’s say the lifespan of a student will start with English, go into vocational training, and once they’ve done vocational training are sort of splits in two. so one side of the population , or let’s say of the students, who will try to find either sponsorship or skill migration vias or partner visas or say without furthering their studies. The other the other part will try to do something like master’s degree and spend a little more time pursuing a career in furthering their knowledge.
So that’s a good segway too. You’ve come here, you’ve enrolled initially into an English course because you had zero english or you had you know a little bit of English. You’ve gotten into fluent and you can communicate. What are the options and what should you do once that first course finishes?
So once a first course, and let’s say that the first cours is the English course, the best way or the easiest way to be able to stay in Australia and further your career is like I said going in to VET courses. so VET courses are vocational training courses and those courses will be able to give a little bit extra push in what you’ve already studied. So usually are things like business and management or a leadership management courses business marketing and communications so it’s things that will give extra skills to the to the student. Those courses generally are let’s say are more specific and will give a little bit extra to the student but might not necessarily mean that are open PR opportunities.
So do you have to hunt for those yourself to some degree? it’s a little more on you to try and find certain jobs or opportunities with companies in order to try and get PR?
So in order to. If a student’s goal is to get PR again they need to sit down with the migration lawyer. They’ll be able to actually sit down, look at what you’ve done home, what you have been doing here, what your career looks like, and be able to guide you and say “okay look perfect you you’ve been an architect look there are looking for architects in rural Australia you’re up your best option is to go and try to work in Adelaide,” for example, “for 2 years.” And that will be able to give you a little bit more opportunities.
So is that something that you should have in mind when you get here a year early you just realise that it may not be that you just get to decide “I want to go to Melbourne I want to live in Melbourne I want to get PR and citizenship,” you need to be open to moving around Australia, doing different jobs, at least in the short term before those things are likely to happen.
Definitely! Definitely if the goal is to try to migrate permanently, obviously keep an open mind in being able to find your place wherever it’s needed, right. But The best thing that we can do… And students can come here and I’ll be more than happy to give them options in migration lawyers that we work with…
That was my next question – how do I get in touch with these people?
So usually we recommend i-Migration. They are our preferred partner but there are plenty of partners all around Australia that obviously cater to international students. If students go to i-Migration and say that they’ve come through Go Study of they’re learned from coming to the office or from this are from this interview, they’ll be able to get a little discount on the first on the first consultation. But I would definitely, definitely push students that if their goal is to move permanently to Australia they need to speak to a qualified migration agent.
Ah brilliant! And I guess, before we sort of finish up since you’ve given us so much good information here I want to get it out there but, what’s your experience been, and I guess reported experiences from other people in all the different cities in Australia? Are there places that you would recommend going or trying first or not going? How have you found that?
So again there are so many people in the world that it depends a lot on what you’re looking for, right. In terms of choosing your destination. I would definitely see what it is that the is. So for example if it is very important for student to be able to work to sustain themselves I would push them to come to Melbourne. Melbourne, for right now, is the best city to come to be able to actually work and sustain yourself while your studying. There isn’t a lot of competition per say with other international students so all of us students right now are working. If you’re looking to have an experience a little bit more towards what is sold to us from offshore of Beaches and surfing, I’d probably go to Queensland, not to Melbourne.
You going to be about an hour and a half away from any decent beach in Melbourne.
Exactly! So… But if they want to have sort of that experience of… Look, maybe the job is not as important but what I want is having a good surfing experience and having a great Australian, how we see it in TV, Let’s say, I would go up to Queensland. But from all the cities that I’ve been… Obviously I haven’t been in all of the cities of Australia but from my experience all of the students that come to Melbourne usually have the most complete experience in terms of their Australian experience.
So would you even just suggest start here and… You know, because you can move cities, I take it, if they want to move English schools to is that a possibility?
Yes a lot of schools actually have campuses in various cities. I would also probably recommend coming to Melbourne, starting your experience in Melbourne, maybe in summer, and then move towards… In winter move towards other destinations. You can definitely already plan your trip or your stay in Australia like that. A lot of students do. Three months in one city, three months in another. Experience both cities and have a little bit more of an overall experience.
And so are there any places you should stay away from? Not necessarily because they’re bad but because you will have fewer opportunities to get a decent school or to get work or to get accommodation?
Not necessarily. Smaller cities obviously will have less job opportunities. So for example, when we talk about a student that really really needs to be able to find a job quickly to be able to sustain themselves in Australia I’d probably wouldn’t recommend them to go to Gold Coast in winter. Gold Coast in winter, there won’t be a lot of opportunity. There’s not a lot of jobs. Gold Coast in summer? Yes! lots of approachable…
Lots of tourist lots of jobs!
A lot of stuff to do and probably be able to find a job. So there isn’t anything that you would be… That I would steer off. In any city you’d be able to find a decent school and decent opportunity.
I guess a good point to make there, a good anecdote, is my girlfriend came to Australia maybe two and a half years ago and she went straight to Townsville, which is an isolated small town. I think it’s like one or two hundred thousand people in northern Queensland, and she couldn’t find a job for a year, so she had enough money to support herself and she was studying. But yeah, she couldn’t find a decent job for a year. But the good thing was she did all this volunteer work. So for people who can’t find a job and if you’re seeing the job as a way of interacting with native speakers I’m sure that you’ll be able to find a plethora of volunteering opportunities if you want to work with animals or people or events that you will still enable you to practice your English. That was how she did it for the first year she… I think she was during school but then she was also just volunteering all the time and it really took her English up and then after that actually she got all these references from the volunteer places that helped her get a really good job. So there’s opportunities there. Awesome, no worries! Well Lorena from Go Study Australia. Thank you so much. How can people find out more about Go Study Australia and get in contact with you guys?
Yeah you can go to our Website: GoStudy.com.au . You can find us on Facebook, you can add me on my personal Facebook profile. And yeah I mean, from, if you’re offshore, if you’re in Italy France or Spain you can go to our offices there. If you’re here in Australia, in Melbourne Sydney, Perth or Brisbane you can stop by. Or if you need anything you can just contact us online.
Brilliant! And I guess that’s the biggest takeaway, guys; Don’t do this alone. Contact places like Go study Australia and get help. If you have questions… If they can’t help you they’re going to let you know but you’re not going to know unless you ask. So, awesome! Well thank you so much for your time.
No I thank you Pete!
My pleasure! We’ll have to do this again soon and I guess if you guys have any questions that we didn’t cover in today’s interview make sure to put them below wherever you’re watching this or listening to this and hopefully I can get there around here again in the future and ask her those questions so Cheers guys! Cya soon!
Alright, guys, so I hope you enjoy that interview. Remember that if you would like any kind of help or advice with regards to studying English in Australia, finding accommodation, finding a job, make sure that you contact Go Study Australia, guys. Okay?
And yeah, big thanks to Lorena. I’m going to try and get her again on the podcast and interview her about some other things with regards to coming to Australia and studying here. So, if you guys have any kinds of questions that you would like me to ask her specifically next time, make sure that you e-mail me them or comment them on this episode of the podcast. Just get in contact with me and let me know what more I can do to get you information from Go Study Australia or from Lorena.
Anyway, thanks for joining me today, guys. I really appreciate it. And I’ll see you soon. See ya.
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What’s up, guys? Welcome to this episode of Aussie English. Today is going to be a…. Today is going to be a really good episode. The glasses just went under my seat and I’ll have to find them later. We have stocked up on stuff. So, we got some drinks here. What else have we got Kel? We got some… We got nuts and fruit, and nuts and fresh, healthy snacks for the road. So, we are about to hit the road and where are we going, Kel? We’re going a pumpkin festival. Pumpkins! Alright, let’s go.
Alright, so food and drink in hands, we hit the road. It was about 40 minutes or so along the highway up north until we got to Collector, and then we were faced with this.
So, initially I was like, “Okay, what’s going on? Is the police checking people or something before they get there? But no, it was just that the road was blocked like crazy. People were parking on the sides of the roads here and then walking in, and initially, I was thinking, “Okay maybe we can do that, you know? Maybe we’ll just park wherever we can find a park and walk in.”. But I thought, “I’ll stay in the car, we’ll keep driving and see what happens.”. My God! We were in the car for about 40 minutes driving along a road that was probably a kilometre long. I shit you guys not. It took forever. It was crazy.
Alright, guys, so we are here in collector and Jesus Christ. What is this? This is crazy. So crazy, guys.
Jesus! We’re finally here you, guys. What an ordeal. I think we spent more time on the road driving about 500 metres than we did getting leave from Canberra to here. So, here we are. Let’s go see what it’s about.
So, it was pretty cute. There are loads of people, already leaving though. It was about lunchtime and there was a heap of people leaving. I thought, “Oh, it’ll be slow. There won’t be that many people”, but there was still a shit ton of people. So, here you can see the the gates. We had to pay about 10 bucks a person, I think, 10 bucks a head to get in. We could obviously pay with cash on the left side and if EFTPOS on the right side. So, that is using your, I guess, just using your bank card, right? So, you use the EFTPOS machine, which is that little machine they used to do the transaction. And this chick was having a bit of trouble with the machine as we went through. And something interesting you might not know about, in Australia we have Pay Pass, we call it, where you can just touch the card on to the machine and it senses the microchip in the card and the transaction goes through. So, if it’s an order or some kind of payment under 100 dollars, you can do that and you don’t have to enter any pin or anything like that.
So, we got in it and man it was hot, and I forgot my god damn hat! This is what happens when you forget your hat, guys. I’ve got to stand in line for ages. I’ve got to pee, gotta pee, gotta pee, gotta pee! If you guys have ever wondered what the inside of portaloo looks like, a portatoilet, here you go. This is it. Check this out. Don’t drop the phone!
If you guys have already seen the movie Kenny, you definitely need to check out that movie. It’s great. And it’s all about portaloos, so outhouses. What else? The brick shithouses. Although, these ones are plastic. Portaloos, we call them. Portaloos. But, yeah, check out the film if you haven’t. There should be a picture here showing you.
So, obviously being a pumpkin fate or fair there were pumpkins everywhere the I could see for sale. There were stores selling pumpkins. There were pumpkins on the ground holding things down, weighting down signs, they were all over the place. You could eat them. We went in to a…, I guess, it’s the town hall, some kind of building where you could see all of these pumpkin dishes that were being, I guess, assessed and voted on. You could see this crazy pumpkin cakes and carved pumpkins as well. There was one there that was huge that was number one that looked like a jack-o’-lantern from Halloween. And then, there were the smallest pumpkins awards, I guess, for those as well. So, they were pretty cute.
So, we made our way out, walked around a little bit, and I stumbled upon the largest pumpkin, and this thing was huge! I think I could have crawled up inside of this, had it been hollow. It was massive, guys. I don’t think I could have lifted it. It was absolutely huge. And I would love to know how long that took to grow. Far out! And what steroids were they giving it? Huge! Huge!
So, we kept going, kept having a look, and then we stumbled upon what looked like sheep in a paddock. I was like, “Something interesting’s going on here.”. And this guy was talking about herding sheep using cattle dogs, using these Kelpies, these two black and white Kelpies in the background.
So, we were walking around checking out these different stalls, all kinds of leather products, there were clothes, and then we found a whole heap of picture frames, hippie clothing, candles, different aroma things, all sorts of soaps, heaps and heaps of stuff. This is the kind of stuff you’ll see at these markets, these farmer’s markets.
And then, we came across the food stalls and this is where things started to get pretty good, guys. So, I was getting pretty hungry by this point and decided that it was time to get something to eat and we were also pretty thirsty. And so, what’s really common at these fetes and at pretty much any public event, you’re going to see things that are like hot food stands. So, you’re going to see hot dogs, which is like a sausage in a bun, you know? It’s a pretty American thing, but it’s popular here too. You’ll see all kinds of meat. This one also had hot chips. That’s a really common thing to find that these stalls where you get chips with sauce and salt on them in little buckets, kind of like coffee mugs, or coffee cups, the cardboard coffee cups but bigger. You get those. And then there were battered savs!
Alright, guys. So, I thought I had to do some food for you in this vlog. This is a battered sav. So, this is a sausage in batter that’s been deep fried, and then it’s been dipped in it’s sauce, tomato sauce of course. And, wow. It’s pretty good as you would imagine any dried… deep* fried food is. So, I’m going to hand this over to Kel and give her a bit of a go.
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Yeah cheers. Cheers, Kel! Kel! What did you…? What did you…? There’s nothing left! What did you do? You smashed it! This is so unfair, guys. We might have to get another one.
So, I thought there was this scarecrow in the middle here, and then I looked sideways, and I was like, “This crowd’s pretty thick.”, and all of a sudden, I realized they’re all on sticks, and these people standing up are all scarecrows as well. These are… They’re not people. They’re all scarecrows. I had no idea. I thought it was just a really thick crowd.
So, this is how multicultural Australia gets, guys. We out in the middle of, you know, woop woop in a town called Collector and we have here German hot dogs, Turkish Gozleme, we’ve got Tian Farm chicken food. What else have we got? Some authentic organically grown… Dunno whats, and then the French crepes as well. So, there’s stuff from all over the world in this tiny little fete/fair thing. Crazy! where’s the Brazilian food, Kel? I’m still looking for it.
I was thinking this was some African country or something, guys, like Uganda. And then I got it. “Uwana”, “(Do) you want a coffee?”. Ok, I get it. I get it.
We also stumbled upon some guy doing a kid’s show. He was playing this pipe like the didgeridoo and singing about native Australian animals, which was pretty cute.
Skip like a kangaroo.
Skipping around Kakadu.
Little joey in the pouch.
Two ears sticking out.
And then after that, we stumbled upon some old carriages that were drawn by horses.
And it looks like we got some really old good carriages out the back here, guys. So, people getting rides on those. Let’s have a look and see if we can see one go past.
And I don’t know whether or not this was paid, but you could jump on these things and they would take you for a ride around this paddock or this oval, it could have been a cricket field, but it looks really cool. So, I sat there and watched them come round.
A common scene at all fairs, guys. The dunny queue.
What do you think, guys? Is this pretty “punny”. Instead of “bandicoot”, “bandicute”.
We kept walking around after that looking at different stalls and Kel found a really cute store where you could buy baby’s clothing called “Bandicute”. Pretty funny pun. So, we grabbed something there from my niece. That was pretty cool, except for the fact that Kell’s card didn’t work so I ended up having to pay for that one. Thanks, Kel.
But, yeah, there were all kinds of bookstalls. There were stores selling Australian stuffed animals. There were stores selling signs made out of Australian animals. Then there were bracelets and jewellery, plants, you could get succulents and cacti, and even, I think, some carnivorous plants, right? So, things like the picture plants and the Venus fly traps, which I found pretty interesting. Wasn’t expecting to see that.
And then of course the ice cream truck or the ice cream van. Now, this is a very common sight in Australia.
Another really famous thing to say goes here when you come to these fairs is the ice cream truck, usually with a big, big line in front of it. So, there you go. Although, I’m not going have any ice. Not today.
It’s not just me that says it, guys. When things go wrong!
It wouldn’t be a fete, guys, without a sausage sizzle and the sauce hiding in. Some bread, sausage, and there you go.
We also ended up hearing some bagpipes being played in the background, which was pretty random, and there was a group of maybe 15 or so people standing in a circle in one of these pavilions just playing these bagpipes incredibly loudly. So, went and had a look at that.
And then, we were pretty much done for the day. We’d been there for a few hours. We were pretty wrecked, had eaten a little bit, walked around.
Alright, guys, I think we’re a faired out, smashed it out, managed to only eat a little bit of dirty food, and didn’t break the bank, although Kel did trick me. She got me. Oh my god! So, we ended up buying something from my niece.
So, I think we’re going home now. Pretty wrecked, pretty wrecked. Lots of sun exposure. I got my vitamin D for the day. I tell you what!
And another thing, I guess, that was kind of interesting was that there were two of these graveyards on either side of the main street as we walked out of this fair, and this you’ll see a lot in Australian towns, especially small towns that are quite old. You’ll see that churches quite often have graveyards next to them.
And of course as soon as we got out we needed coffee. So, we went to Some Café, and the café at the intersection there.
As always, guys, we’ve got to do a pit stop and get some coffee.
And sat around, got some coffee, and also tried some delicious treats here. So, I think that we grab some carrot cake here. That was delicious. And yeah, I just can’t get enough of the carrot cake.
And then it was time to head home. So, we got in the car. We got out pretty quickly, fortunately. It wasn’t to block, but then we hit traffic, and we were like, “Okay, what the hell is going on? Why is the highway where we should usually be driving at about 110 Ks an hour, why are we moving out like five kays an hour?”. So, we sat there for ages and then the GPS told us that had been an accident up ahead, interestingly enough. And so, we were waiting for ages, like four or five kilometres of just heaps of people heading back to Canberra.
Man, I can’t believe this shit! We get back on the highway were meant to be doing 110, and how fast are we going Kel? That’s 10 kilometres. 100 kilometers to slow. So, there’s been some accident, apparently, up here, but it feels like we got to Collector earlier on and we were going the same speed for about 20 minutes trying to get to the town to park and now we’re just trying to get home. We’re doing the same shit again. God damn it! Hopefully everyone’s okay in the accident, but far out!
And I was expecting to see some epic carnage when we got there, but it had all been taken away. And so, we just passed a few cop cars and the firies, and that was about it. Then we headed home.
Good thing on the way home though, I thought “Another excuse to do some photography”. We passed these horses in a field near a horse club of some kind or some place where some person obviously takes care of people’s horses on their land. So, these fields were full of about 20 horses, and we got out of the car, and they all came over to us. It was beautiful, and Kel got to do some photography whilst the sun was setting with these horses in the background.
Alright, guys. That is it for me today. I hope you enjoy this vlog. Let me know, do you guys like pumpkins? Comment below and don’t forget to hit the subscribe button and the bell icon if you would like to keep up to date with all the latest videos. I hope you have an amazing night, guys, and I’ll see you in the next one. Peace!
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AE 443 – Expression: There Wasn’t a Dry Eye in The House
G’day, you mob. How’s it going? And welcome to this episode of Aussie English.
So, today’s episode is a little bit different, guys. I thought that I would skip the intro scene and just have a bit of a chat to you guys, tell you what I’ve been up to, give you the downlow, give you that deets, give you their gossip. So, obviously, I’ve been doing quite a few of vlogs recently, guys. You will have seen this if you’ve been following me on YouTube, and I hope you’ve been enjoying these vlogs are I get to show you a bit about my life, the food I eat, the places I go, my surroundings, you know? So, the aim with these vlogs is to teach you Australian English whilst also showing you a bit about my life. And interestingly, these seem to be the videos that people like the most, you know? I was always expecting that you would prefer, I don’t know, different kinds of videos on YouTube like interview episodes or some of those on the Aussie English TV episodes, but it seems like you guys are really responding well to the vlogs and I think they’re the content I really most enjoy making so I keep doing my thing with those vlogs, and I did some really cool stuff recently that will be coming out including going to… What was it again? The pumpkin fete. Although the pumpkin fair out in a tiny town called Collector in New South Wales. So, this town has, like, a population of about 300 people, usually, and once a year they have this huge festival of pumpkins. So, they’re selling pumpkins, they have a competition with the largest pumpkin, and you can go to this festival, you can get on rides, you can eat different kinds of food.
One of the funniest things about this festival was the fact that I saw at least three stalls selling Turkish food. So, that was pretty interesting. I did not expect to see that, but there was Spanish food, Italian food, Indian food, as well as, obviously, Australian food, and I vlogged a little bit about that, guys, I had a battered sav, which is like a sausage that’s been battered, it’s been covered in batter, and then that’s been deep fried. So, I have one of those and it was amazing.
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Anyway, let’s get into today’s episode, guys. This one is “there wasn’t a dry eye in the house”. Okay? And this this expression came from Emma who voted on this one, or who suggested this one, in the Aussie English Classroom. So great job, Emma.
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Alright. So, today’s joke, guys. Today’s joke. What type of Australian marsupial can jump higher than a house? What kind of Australian marsupial can jump higher than a house? Any of them, because a house can’t jump! Do you get it? A house can’t jump. Therefore, any Australian marsupial can jump higher than a house.
Alright, so as I mentioned guys, today’s expression is “there wasn’t a dry eye in the house”. “There wasn’t a dry eye in the house”.
Let’s go through the definitions of the different words in this expression and it’s a bit of a long one.
So, I mean I’m sure you guys know what “there” is and how it’s used. It means in, at, or to a certain place or position.
“Dry”. “Dry” is not wet or moist. So, it’s free of moisture or liquid. If something is dry it is not wet, it is not covered in a liquid of some kind. So, for instance, a desert is the epitome of dryness. It is where there is absolutely no moisture or, at least, very little.
“An eye”. I’m sure you guys know what “an eye” is. It is one of the two spherical organs that you have in your head, in your face, that you see with. That is “an eye”. Okay? “An eye”.
And “a house”. “A house” I’m sure you know as a dwelling that people live in, you know? I’m currently inside of my house. But it can be used for other things too. So, it can be used for different establishments, different buildings. So, for instance, a restaurant, an inn, a brothel, a theatre, and a cinema are all different establishments that can often be referred to as “the house” if you’re in these establishments.
And in the case of today’s expression, though, “there wasn’t a dry eye in the house”, they’re talking about some kind of building like a church or a theatre, usually a building where you’re going to have a crowd of people watching an event. So, for instance, a wedding in a church or maybe in a town hall as well, or it could be some theatre production, a play, an opera inside of an opera house or inside of a theatre. So, that’s the basic idea there with those words, guys.
The expression “There wasn’t a dry eye in the house”. I wonder if you guys have heard this before, and I wonder if you know what it means. If someone says that there wasn’t a dry eye in the house, it means that the people that were watching a certain event all felt very emotional about this event that they had seen or that they had heard and that many, if not all, were crying. So, it was such an emotional event, everyone was in tears, everyone was crying, and therefore their eyes were wet, their eyes were moist, their eyes were not dry.
So, let’s go through three examples, guys. Let’s go through three examples. And I’ve sort of fleshed these examples out, I have tried to add a bit of story to them, because these examples will be today’s listening comprehension study inside the Aussie English Classroom, guys. So, when you’re in there, this is when you’ll be tested on your listening comprehension, you’ll get to complete the quiz with all of the questions on this section. So, I’ve tried to add a lot of content and a lot of little different aspects, bits and pieces, into these three examples.
So, three examples on how to use the expression “there wasn’t a dry eye in the house”.
So, example number one. I’m going to an opera or a play somewhere and it’s an incredibly sad one, and maybe I’m taking my best mate James, and we’ve decided to fly up to Sydney to go to the Sydney Opera House for the weekend. So, we fly up to Sydney for the weekend and we want to see this play, and it’s a play by Shakespeare. Maybe it is Romeo and Juliet. I think that’s probably the saddest Shakespearean play that I know. So, that’s where the two lovers are from separate families that hate each other. These guys fall in love and they end up committing suicide in a very tragic scene at the very end of this play you know. Spoiler alert! Sorry, if anyone hasn’t seen this. So, you imagine we go and see this play. The scene comes up where Romeo finds his love dead, at least he thinks she’s dead. He drinks some poison, because he wants to die with her. She wakes up as he’s dying, and then she commits suicide. It’s an incredibly emotional and tear-jerking scene. So, you would imagine when this scene occurs, there wouldn’t be a dry eye in the house. Everyone would be in tears, everyone would be crying, everyone would be brought to tears by the sad ending. So, there wouldn’t be a dry eye in the house.
Alright, example number two. Maybe you are at a relative’s wedding. So, you’ve got a niece and she’s about to get married to some guy that she met at a university. Maybe he was in a uni course or maybe she met him out at a pub or something whilst partying in uni. That tends to be something a lot of uni students do. So, the big day rolls around and you head to the wedding, and there’s a beautiful ceremony. The chairs are all set up. They’re white. There’s an arch under which the couple are going to get married that’s full of flowers. All of your friends and family arrive. You guys take a seat. The music starts to play, you know? Quite often they’ll have things like a quartet, a string quartet. So, you’ll have like violins and other stringed instruments that I can’t think of playing together. And so, the music starts. You see your niece being brought down the aisle. Her father is walking her down the aisle to the groom. So, she is going to get married to the guy at the end of the aisle. She looks so beautiful in her white wedding dress that she begins to cry. And as a result of her crying her father begins to cry. And then, as the crowd sees these two breaking down in tears everyone else starts to cry. So, as a result, there isn’t a dry eye in the house. And, ironically, even if this is outside, right, so your… you could be in an open field, you could probably still use this expression that there isn’t a dry eye in the house, because it doesn’t have to literally be within a house, right, within a building.
So, example number three. Alright, the final example, guys. You are in a hospital and you’re there with your wife, and your wife is pregnant, she is in the midst of giving birth to your child, she’s in labor, and your child’s going to be a beautiful baby girl. So, your whole family has gotten together. Maybe some of them have come from interstate. You know? They’ve flown to Victoria from Queensland or from Western Australia. Some have even flown from overseas. You know? Imagine they came from Brazil or America or France, and they’re all there to celebrate this amazing event. Your first child on this day. So, they’re waiting outside the room. You’re inside with your wife as she successfully gives birth to your beautiful baby girl. You get to cut the umbilical cord as your family come in to meet the latest member of their family, and everyone begins to cry. Everyone is incredibly emotional. They are incredibly excited, they’re happy, they’re proud. Everyone starts to cry. And so, there isn’t a dry eye in the house. When your daughter was born, there wasn’t a dry eye in the house. Everyone was in tears. Everyone was incredibly happy and emotional.
So, there you go, guys. There wasn’t a dry eye in the house. It’s used to mean that all people at a particular place or event feel incredibly emotional about something that they’ve seen or heard and that they’ve begun to cry. So, effectively, there’s an audience watching something and everyone is in tears. That is what “there wasn’t a dry eye in the house” means.
So, let’s go through a listen and repeat exercise, guys. This is your chance to practice your pronunciation, to practice saying the words in this expression, in this sentence. So, you know how first I tend to say it word by word to try and help you focus on connected speech. And then after that, we use it in a sentence and conjugate through the different pronouns. Listen and repeat after me and if you’re practising your Aussie accent, pay attention to how I say things, and if you’re just practising your English accent in general, ignore my accent and just use it as a chance to practice yourself saying these words. Okay? So, let’s go.
Listen & Repeat Exercise:
There wasn’t a
There wasn’t a dry
There wasn’t a dry eye
There wasn’t a dry eye in
There wasn’t a dry eye in the
There wasn’t a dry eye in the house x 5
Good job. Now we’ll go through the different pronouns and we’ll conjugate through the sentence, “I didn’t see a dry eye in the house”. Okay? We’ll go through each different pronoun. Let’s go.
I didn’t see a dry eye in the house
You didn’t see a dry eye in the house
He didn’t see a dry eye in the house
She didn’t see a dry eye in the house
We didn’t see a dry eye in the house
They didn’t see a dry eye in the house
It didn’t see a dry eye in the house
Amazing job, guys. Remember to repeat those exercises. Pronunciation is the kind of thing you have to continually practice, you know? It’s kind of like going to the gym. You can go to the gym for three months, you can get incredibly fit, but the moment you stop going to the gym your fitness starts to wane, it starts to reduce, right? It may not be rapid it, but eventually, it reduces more and more and more, slowly, gradually over time. And it’s the same with pronunciation. You might get really good at pronouncing things in English, because you practice a lot, but the moment you stop focusing on pronunciation, at least a little bit, you know, doing a little bit every day, it can begin to taper off, it can begin to reduce, and I’ve found this when speaking French, when speaking Portuguese. The more I do it, the more consistent, I am the better I am. But if I take a little break and I stop practicing, it tends to drop off.
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Today, I think you will really enjoy the pronunciation exercise, because there’s a lot of different things going on in there. Like stop consonants, there’s silent T’s after words like “wasn’t” and “didn’t”. There’s a whole heap of good stuff that I will break down in the video, but I’m going to leave that for the Classroom, and I will hopefully see you guys in there.
Anyway, it’s about 11:30 a.m. and I am starting to get a bit of a hankering on for a coffee. I’m really… I am eagerly awaiting my walk to the shops, getting out of the house, doing my 10,000 steps, going for a bit of a walk, being active, and getting my coffee, my little reward at the end of my exercise, and I’m still debating whether or not to take the dogs for a walk with me, though they tend to poo everywhere and I just can’t be bothered dealing with that.
Again, thank you so much for your understanding and for all of the really warm and supportive feedback that I got with regards to changing the website and bringing through the paid membership for the transcripts. You guys sent me an overwhelmingly positive set of feedback via email and I just want to give you all a massive thanks. I really, really appreciate it and I appreciate the fact that you guys appreciate what I do here.
Anyway guys, I’m going to bugger off. I’ll chat to you soon and I hope you have a freakin’ amazing day. See you, guys.
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AE 442 – Vlog: Brazilian Food Isn’t What I Expected | Australian vs Brazilian Food & Culture
Alright, guys. So, we’re going to some place Deli Cravings that Kel just found, because apparently it sells Brazilian food authentic Brazilian food that’s been imported from Brazil, huh? And Kel’s pretty excited. She started screaming on the computer in the lounge room, and is like “You have to come with me! You’ve got to take me. Even though, it’s ANZAC Day, it’s open. We need to go. We need to go get food I need you to try my… the food of my people. You need to try it. Try the food! Try the f*cking food, Pete! She didn’t say that. She was a little calmer, just slightly. Let’s see.
Alright, so we’re here in this little… I don’t know what you call this place, like, mall. There’s shops open everywhere, even though it’s Anzac Day today. So, they should be close, but obviously, they don’t care. They don’t give a sh*t. Here we go. Here’s the place.
Straight ahead and on your left.
Can you see it?
No. So exciting! That’s it.
Oh, I don’t know what this is, but we’re going to try it. I wish I could see Kel’s face now, guys, she’s like a kid in a candy store. So, there’s lots of foreign food here. It looks amazing.
Paçoquinha. There’s another one. I have no idea what it is, but apparently we’re going to try it. *Portuguese*. I know pau de queijo. Pão*. “Pão”, not “pau”. Pão de queijo. Oh, too funny.
I can’t take everything. I have to choose. I know, you’re going to have to be selective. I have no idea what all this is , but I’m looking forward to eating. Tapioca. There’s another one. What’s that one? Batata paiha. Oh yeah, you guys love that. They’re like little chips, aren’t they? I know farofa, but I’m always like “What is it? Rice or is it because cous cous?”. It’s something else though, right? Farofa.
Kel just lost her sh*t. She was showing me this earlier today. There you go. Brazilians in Canberra, this is where you need to come! So, Kel has stocked up, guys. She has stocked up. There you go.
How’s it going? Would you like a bag? Yes please. How’s your day going? Busy? Actually, busier than we expected. Yeah, we didn’t expect you to be open. She lost her sh*t. She found all this Brazilian traditional food and was like, “We need to go to the store”. You guys should advertise this. There’re so many Brazilians. Yeah, she’s been here for two years and hasn’t had any of this. And she’s just like, “Oh my god!”. Did you want a receipt? No, you’re all good. Thanks a lot. Have a good day. Thanks. See you. Where’re we going?
Alright, guys, we’ve stocked up. We have stocked up. We have like 40 bucks worth of Brazilian food, which doesn’t amount to much once it’s been imported here to Australia, but it’s going to be an interesting experience to see what this is like. I haven’t had any traditional Brazilian food that’s actually come in packages or anything, right? We’ve made a few things like brigadeiros, and that was about it.
Yeah, and requejão.
Requejão também. We also had requejão. So, this is going to be good fun, guys. This is going to be good. I have no idea what to expect. In fact, I think I do know what to expect, a lot… a lot of sugar. I reckon it’s going to be as sugary as sh*t.
So, I am here today testing Brazilian food.
What’s the first one that’s coming my way? You… I’ve got to say, do I?
Tradição Brasileira, Paçoquinha.
Paçoquinha. So, what is this exactly? Paçoquinha? Or do you want to eat first and then tell me?
Um, just yeah… go for it. Smell it.
It looks like these little cylinders. Little cylinders. They kind of remind me of those apricot treats that you can get in Australia. Have you ever seen those with like Kirchen on the outside?
It’s really sweet, but I can already smell…
I can smell the amount of peanut butter. So, this is paçoquinha.
It’s very sweet.
Really, really sweet. You could never go through a whole one of those.
No. Oh really? I don’t find it really sweet.
No, it’s really sweet. It’s not what I was expecting. I was expecting it to be a more peanut buttery and really dense, ’cause those apricot things that I have in Australia… those apricot things are really really dense and chewy. So, I was expecting it to be like that but this feels like a kind of powdery and you bite into it. But it was very nice. Very sweet. Wow. So, this is the inside of it. Yeah, oh my god! I could have one of those, I think. Oh! They are really strong. Can I get a glass of water?
So that I can wash my mouth out. It’s very powdery. Sticks all over my mouth. Alright, I’ve cleansed my mouth and I’m ready for the next one. So, what’s next?
Bis. These look like waffle biscuits.
We used to have these with my… My grandmother loved these things, but they were like pink or yellow when they would come out. She would bring them out when I would get to our place. So, I think you can probably get these in Australia. Though, I haven’t seen… I haven’t seen them like this for. So, what are these? Bis. Nova formula. Woah, look out, “new formula”, guys. “Lacta”, that tells me there’s milk in it. Alright. Oh, the packaging looks a lot nicer than the Australian ones. The Australian ones, you’d pull it out of here and they would just be sitting there ready to come out. Wow, so that’s… look at that.
“Bis” is like “Again”. So, “você pedi um bis” is like you want something to happen again. So, if you’re singing and I’m like, “Oh, um bis”, it’s like, “Oh, sing again!”.
You get it. Yeah.
So, this is tiny. I was expecting it to be much bigger based on what I was looking at here. It’s a bit of false advertising there. Alright, so let’s give this a go. Kel’s getting into it. You haven’t had one of these in a while?
A long time.
Holy molly. Alright, so here we go. They look pretty good. They look like… Oh, there’s some Chomp bars that you can get in Australia and it looks like this. They’re called Chomps and they’ve got caramel in them. They’re really good. Alright. Yeah, these are good. I could eat a lot of these.
That’s Bis. Mmm so good!
I think I need a second one just to be sure that’s what I’m tasting. What are these like the Brazilian version of Tim Tams?
Yeah, but Tim Tams are extremely sweet for me.
Wow, yeah, they’re good. I really like those. They are just those waffle biscuits. You can definitely find those all around Australia. But they seem to come differently. They’ll be thin, but I think they’ve obviously used the same stamp, ’cause they have the same patterning.
What’s next. Guaraná.
So, the funny thing was Kel showed me, today, this morning, she’s like, “Have you ever tried Guanará?”, which is like the Brazilian version of coke, right? Like, it’s sugary. You’ve got coke, but it’s your special Brazilian…
It’s our main… yeah.
“O original do Brazil”. So, “the original from Brazil”. This is Guaraná Antartica. Alright, so it contains caffeine. Cuidado. Watch out!
And what is Guaraná exactly? It’s is a berr?
It’s a fruit. Yeah, the thing.
Yeah. So, I’ve never tasted the fruit. I’ve never had one of these, but I always hear Brazilians talking about it. So, like, this one was nice and cold in the fridge when we got there. Opens like normal can.
Smells like a normal drink.
Yeah. Alright, I’m guessing it’s going to be green or yellow. Oh, nailed it! So, do I just do a little bit? Alright, let’s just leave that there. Oh, it smells very Aramaic. Aromatic*. Lots and lots of fruits.
Just have a lot!
Have a lot? Ok. Is this going to blow my mind? That’s pretty good. It’s hard to describe though, ’cause it’s kind of like a fizzy drink, soft drink, but it’s fruity. It’s nowhere near as sweet as I was expecting.
I was expecting that to look like Mountain Dew or something, you know, just based on this and being like, “Oh my God”.
It tastes exactly like diabetes.
How much sugar does that actually have in it? Oh, it was only 10 grams, 10 percent. I don’t know what Coke is, but I think cokes are way more than 10 percent. So, that’s actually quite good. Keep smashing that.
So, these’re the other two things that you can wanting to show me. Nescau.
Nescau, which is our Milo, but better.
Which just looks like chocolate drink. Yeah, your milo, but better huh?
Robbed! I’ve been robbed!
This looks pretty good. The other thing that I noticed, or Kel noticed, was farofa, which is what exactly? Cassava flour did you say? Cassava flour with these ingredients mixed in. And so, you have this as a side. And initially, I thought it looked like… Oh, is that like rice or something? Like, it looks like cous cous, but apparently it’s not. You wouldn’t have that much of it, right? It’s just kind of a little additive.
Yeah, that’s it. You described it perfectly.
Alright. Well, I guess, we will have that tonight and hopefully I can video that and include that, guys. Anyway, see you at dinnertime, guys.
Alright, guys, we’re back. It’s dinnertime. Kel’s cooked this nice little meal. We’ve got some black rice here, and then, what would you call this, Kel? This chicken.
This is herbed chicken.
Herbed chicken, yes. And also… excuse me. We have farofa. So, how do I eat this? What do I do with it? Do I just…?
You can try like that, but I think it might be a bit…
Do I just put it on the top?
No, just… Yeah, a little bit on the side. Yeah, and then you can mix it with rice if you want or…
Maybe, I should… I’ll get some of this rice and I’ll try the farofa. Alright. Actually, I might use a spoon. So, I’ve no idea what to expect. Is it good?
It’s really dry, and nice and salty. It’s not bad, it’s just…
It’s kind of like it feels like they’ve gotten plain salty chips and put them in a blender, and that’s what you’ve ended up with all these… This is what a packet of chips is like when it’s been ground up.
Yeah, I was expecting it to be like flour, like chicken salt or something, very fine, but it’s chewy.
Yeah, it can be a bit…
Interesting. So, farofa. Not bad!
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French vs Australian Culture with Cara Leopold
What’s going on, guys? Today I have a really cool little interview for you and it is with Cara Leopold from Leo-Listening.com. So, this is a really cool interview. This is part 1 where we’re going to be talking about how she ended up moving to France, how she learnt French, and how she adapted to the French culture.
So, it’s a really cool interview, guys. She also has an interesting accent. So, see if you can pick where she’s from.
I hope you enjoy this one. And make sure you stay tuned for the second interview, which will be out shortly about how to stop using subtitles when you watch movies.
Stay tuned. It’s a ripper!
G’day guys! Welcome to this episode of Aussie English. I have a special guest for you today, on today’s interview episode, and you might notice that she has a slightly different accent from me. Cara from Leo-Listening.com. Thanks for coming on the podcast and chatting to us about getting subtitle free.
Hiya Pete, yeah, thanks for introducing me, and yes, we do have a slightly… a slightly different accent.
Can you tell me where yours is from? Can you tell me about…
Well, mine is a bit… Mine is a bit of a mess… because I… I as a kid I used to live in Scotland. So I lived in Scotland until I was 11 or 12, and you know, All my family are Scottish, you know. And then so when I was 11, almost 12, we moved to England. We moved to a city called Nottingham, in England. So, like, my accent started to change really rapidly because I was kind of dropped straight into secondary school, and everyone was like, you know, “You sound so Scottish!, I can’t understand you!”, I didn’t have like a really… You know… I didn’t have like a really broad Glaswegian accent like…
I hadn’t even lived… I was born in Glasgow, but I actually lived somewhere else in Scotland. So… Like, I actually… like me and my brother had different accents to my parents, because my mum is from Glasgow, my dad’s from another place, so like, we all had different accents. So even the people talking about the Scottish accent, it’s so… Like… It’s quite fine tuning in the UK. Like, you kinda go 20 miles and it changes, which sounds crazy!
I always wanted to know how does that… how does that… I guess, continue into modern day life when the world is so connected, and you would think in England, that being such a small island or group islands in the Britain, that you guys would mix around a whole heap! But is it just that everyone is spending their developmental years, as kids, in a very small region, getting their accent kind of cemented, and then when they leave they still hold on to it?
Yeah, it’s a good point, because obviously, like… We’re massively influenced by, like… I mean I’ve always liked watching TV. Like, as a kid I would get up really early on the weekend and, like… Watch programs, and you know… A lot of them are obviously American or even Australian. So you’d think our accents would be influenced as well by like, media. But I don’t know, I think ultimately we’re more influenced by kind of the day to day, like… Context. So when you’re growing up it’s other kids: You don’t want to sound, like… Too different
Yeah, you don’t want to be the outsider, right?
Exactly! Yeah, and I mean obviously that was the case when I moved to England, and I think I quickly adjusted my accent because I didn’t want to, like, stand out… Too much, and I wanted people to understand me but I think they were exaggerating a little bit!
You get sick of repeating yourself, right? When people are like, “What!? What!? what did you say!?”, and you’re just like “ughhhh”, and that pushes you to kind of blend in.
Exactly, yeah. So my… My accent changed quite a bit. Like, some people… Some people still know that I’m… They know that I’m Scottish after speaking to me, even just for, like, a couple of minutes, like, they know. And I mean, I’ve had another Scottish person say to me, you know… Act like I basically know which village you’re from! Because he was from… He was from the same area! He was, like, from the next village. I mean, that sounds insane, but that’s how… Kind of, yeah, specific . Each… Each accent is. I mean, yeah… That sounds… That sounds crazy, because… In Australia, does it vary very much?
Not the same way. Ours is kind of… There are three… I just did a video on this… There are three sort of accents, or dialects. And it’s the cultivated which is more your upper class, received pronunciation, like the British, you know? you would speak with a very… Very clearly. You would pronounce all the words correctly. Or, at least properly, like according to the dictionary, and you would… You would be very well educated. Have… Tend to be from a rich family. Then there’s the general, which is kind of just everywhere. And then the broad. And the broad tends to be associated with people of… Either from, like, rural areas, where they’re away from the city, or it kind of blends in with the lower class a little bit. So especially with guys. Guys who hang out together a lot. Only Aussie guys. Together they tend to develop a bit of a broader… broader accent than uhm… And especially the further away you get from the cities. But that’s what England fascinates me: Because you guys don’t seem to have the same pattern. And we came from England, right? So we originally came from… At least the majority of us, when we colonized Australia, we’re all from small parts, I think, of England. Some of us kept the Cockney accent. I think that’s part of why we ended up with Rhyming slang. Yeah. But it’ s always funny! I just… It blows my mind how much difference there is in England, and how you guys still have trouble with each other. Because you would imagine, if you… You know, the average Australian hearing cultivated, broad or general will pretty much understand everyone. But then you hear people like, such as yourself, who say kids had trouble understanding you in school. And you’re kind of like, “Don’t you guys watch TV and see Scottish people on TV?”
Yeah… Yeah I don’t… I don’t think it’s 100 percent… I think everyone’s exaggerating a little bit. Like, it doesn’t take that much effort to tune in to someone else’s accent. Especially because, in general, like… It’s only… Like, not everything changes. Not every sound changes, you know? In Scottish… In Scottish-English, like, we pronounce our R’s at the end of the words, which you don’t do in other accents of English. Some of the vowels are different, like… But it’s not massively different. And especially when your accent is quite… isn’t very strong. But yeah it is weird… It is weird you know… And now, obviously, it’s more acceptable, like on TV and in the media, to hear all the different regional accents and some of them are considered quite cool. So yeah. In theory we should be a bit better at understanding each other, but…
It’s funny too. I find that, as an Australian, because we’ve watched so much media that’s not just Australian, as well as movies and TV series, we get so used to these accents. And so we tend to be able to pick where you’re from too in these different countries. Like, I’m not the best at it, but I can tell north versus south and, you know… Like, even in watching Game of Thrones, right? Where they separate them out based on the Scottish accents of the north. And, like, everyone else is down… It’s just crazy… But it’s funny when… Do you guys have trouble with Australians if we go to the UK? Or… Because you guys have watched a lot of Home and Away and Neighbours, you guys know the Aussie accent pretty well?
Yeah! I would be inclined to say that most people, like, even if they don’t watch those soap operas now, like Home and Away and all that… They watched them… Or at uni, instead of going to class they watched Neighbours or Home and Away. So yeah, I think it… I would imagine that it’s less… It’s less difficult. And also, like… Yeah it’s funny… Like, I live in France now and that’s probably also an important part of the accent-piece. And so last night on French TV, on one of the channels Crocodile Dundee was on.
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Yeah! Oh you wouldn’t believe some of the stuff they put on French TV.
Was that dubbed though, or was that subtitles?
A good question! I… They probably offered… Because now, with like… Digital TV sometimes with the film we can put it into the original version.
I can’t imagine watching Crocodile Dundee with dubs! Oh my god, that would be atrocious!
It’s really common to dub films. And sometimes, on some channels… because the audience, you know… For that particular channel or film isn’t going to be English speaking, they just leave it in French. You can’t even put it in English if you wanted to!
So, like, last night we came across Kung Fu Panda. It was on some kid’s channel, and it was only in French! You couldn’t switch it into English.
Oh, wow… But that’s the part that I loved though, as well as I hated, when I was learning French really thoroughly a few years ago. I just love the fact that you could download Game of Thrones with dubs, with subtitles… All in French, and so… You know, you already had watched it in English, you knew the story, but now you could watch it with French voices. Even though was a bit strange, it was a lot more helpful for listening comprehension – not just having subtitles.
Yeah, Subtitles, yeah… that’s it, that’s…. It’s the advantage of France, because they are… They do do a lot of dubbing. You’re going to be able to find material. and sometimes it’s really well dubbed! Like… Like they really get it right, in terms of the tone and the register. So like… So the example I always go to is South Park! It’s a very rude cartoon! the French dubbing of that is amazing… it’s on point. It’s so funny… The kids are, obviously… They are really rude. They swear a lot. They insult each other. And, like… All of that is kept in there, but with… Like, appropriate French expressions for…
The equivalent, because that’s the hardest thing to convey, right? With TV shows like that, where there’s so much more depth to it, pop-culture wise, than just literally translating what they’re saying, you know? That… I am always mind blown when I have friends that have come over from Brazil or France or Spain or wherever it is in the world. They’ve learnt English, and then they get TV shows like South Park or Rick and Morty or even the Simpsons, because so much of it is like… Western pop-culture and references to these… You know, famous people and situations…
Exactly! But yeah, know some… that says what’s good in French and there’s lots of dubbed films that are that are really, you know, well done. So you don’t miss out. But you obviously do miss out on hearing it in English, but at least the dubbing is kind of… It’s, like, loyal to the spirit of the film. I didn’t stick around watching Crocodile Dundee long enough to actually see if it was an English or the dubbed version because it would be… I don’t know what they do to do Crocodile Dundee. Like, how did they make him speak? What accent did they give him? Like…
What’s a broad French accent? The Racaille or…?
Yeah! Sometimes what they do… Yeah they could make him speak like… Yeah, no, I don’t think that would work…What they… What they could do is make him speak like someone really rural I guess. Or sort of country folk. I don’t know where I was going with my was my train of thought… Oh yeah! It’s like sometimes… Like you know in South Park there’s a character who’s British: Pip.
Yeah, of course.
So what they do in the French version is that he is dubbed with a strong English accent in French.
Because, yeah, it’s like how do you convey that message too, of like, Pip has an English accent on an American TV show with American kids, which makes him sound incredibly pretentious and posh. How do you translate that into other languages and cultures? Because you can’t really just give him an English accent because people won’t get it. The French still leave him as English, but speaking French with a strong English accent.
Exactly! Yeah. Oh I’m so annoyed now! I should have watched a few minutes of Crocodile Dundee, just to figure out… Because they couldn’t do it like basically a French voice with a strong kind of Australian sounding, or at least anglophone sounding accent.
Je suis Crocodile Dundee, Comment allez-vous?! Yeah, that’d be amazing!
Ça, c’est un couteau!
Yeah! I was about to say that. “C’est pas un couteau!”. That’s not a knife!
Ça, c’est un couteau! Yeah, I don’t… I don’t… Yeah, I’m going to… I’m going have to YouTube that in a second and find the dubbed version just to double check how they… How they do it.
So how did you end up in France, though? What’s the story there? And how’ve you found the language learning experience over in France?
Yeah! So, like, I studied French at university.
Yeah, so I studied linguistics and I studied French, and… Yeah I just… I wanted to, and I had spent some time in France, like, during the summers, between years at uni, and I just was like “Yeah! I wanna… I want to go and live in France, after.” So, like, a lot of people do the year abroad where they go and study in a French university or something like this. I didn’t actually do that, for various reasons. And then my university had like a link with the university in the city where I live now, which is called Besançon. So, there was an opportunity for me to come over after my studies and teach English. So I was like “Yeah! I want to do that because I’m interested in teaching English as a foreign language. I want to live in France and… You know, there’s the possibility of us…
Ticking all the boxes, huh?
It’s ticking all the boxes! And it was a really cool job because it’s, like, they pay you the minimum wage but you have like 12 hours of teaching a week.
So you’re getting paid as if you’re doing 35… Wait! Obviously…
The lower end… The lower end of 35 hours a week right, though? Like, pay-wise?
But yeah… But, like, it’s fine if you’re a young single person on the minimum wage in France. It’s like… The cost of living is okay. So… Yeah it was really cool. I did. I had a job for a couple of years teaching in a university, which is quite… It’s quite a steep learning curve when you go to work in a university in France because it’s very different to the way a university works in the U.K., and the way I imagine it works in Australia.
So how does it differ?
It’s quite chaotic! Because, like, as long as you’ve got the baccalauréat, you can go to university. This is changing at the moment and this is why some French universities are on strike, because they want to introduce selection before you get into uni. Essentially what happens in France is loads of people turn up… The first year is really the year of selection. So, like, a lot of people just drop out because they don’t really know why they were there in the first place. Especially , you know, I was working in the sort of humanities, languages and faculté. A lot of people just kind of turn up there because they’ve finished school, they don’t know what to do, they’ve heard that if you study a language or sociology the workload is a bit lighter: You don’t have as many classes, so they are like “Okay I’m just going to enroll here!” because it’s very cheap to enroll, or even free, and some people get bursaries. So it is really good in that sense, it’s really open. But that means that, like, it’s quite chaotic because… you know they have classes that are supposed to be kind of seminar style, but, like, one time in one of these classes I had like 47 students. Like, obviously they didn’t all turn up… It didn’t all turn up, like, fortunately. But I think for the test, though, they were probably… They were probably all there. Yeah that was probably the time I had counted 47. So that’s supposed to be like an English class where they’re supposed to be doing oral expression. And even if the maximum is supposed to be more like 30, that’s still, like, way too many people.
Well you just don’t have enough time, right? To get them all to talk and to be involved more deeply.
Yeah, there’s a lot of crowd control because French people, they really like talking. Like, it’s not uncommon for people to talk all the way through even a lecture! Like… And I had colleagues from other countries who were so shocked! Like, I had a Brazilian colleague…
That ‘d be a big no-no in Australia. You would get thrown out.
Oh yeah! Like, it’s so rude. And yeah, so the Brazilian colleague was like, you know, “I was doing a lecture and people are just, you know, they don’t shut up, like… ,” So yeah it’s definitely different. You’re sort of less well looked after if you’re a student in France. You’re kind of left to your own devices to kind of muddle… Muddle through, you know, and then figure it out. So yeah, not everybody ends up finishing university. Like, a lot of people leave or do something else.
So was there a lot of culture shock though too, when you went over there? Like, the different food, the different, I guess, etiquette with people, right? There’s a bit of a difference there, too and…
Yeah, like, there were some there’s some stuff I knew from spending a bit of time, like… Like, I’d been to a summer school at a French university and I’d done some homestays with French families a little bit. So I kind of knew what to expect. So that helped a bit. But, yeah, I hadn’t actually spent that much time in France, like, in… When I was younger. Like, it wasn’t really a holiday destination for us, like, you know a lot of British people like to go to Spain.
I probably went there on holiday, or even just on holiday in Scotland, or whatever, so… But yeah, so like me the most important things I knew, but some things were still really, like, hard for me, when I arrived, like… Like, you know, it’s really important to… When you going to shop in France you have to say “Bonjour,” whereas in the English speaking world you can kind of… You can kind of just sneak in.
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So you don’t always have to say, unless it’s a really small kind of independent shop, then you might say something to the person who is working there. But, yeah, in France it is really important to announce your arrival by saying bonjour, or they’re suppossed to say bonjour to you.
So, like, directly to them, or just like as in “Bonjour!”? Like, is it you walk in and you’re like “I’m here!”
Sometimes I’ll go into the bakery. If there’s a bit of a queue, I might be like “Bonjour”. It’s just like a general bonjour to everyone. Some people are a bit like… Like a sort of… Yeah, some people will come in and be like, “Bonjour mesieurdames!”, you know, they’re kind of addressing everybody in the shop, you know. I don’t I’d walk in there like I just kinda mumble a “Hello”.
It’s so funny, the differences I notice too, because like I’m learning Brazilian Portuguese at the moment, and they are so relaxed, and they have these same sort of expressions. Like, they’ll say things like “Oi gente”, which is like “Hi people,” or “Oi galera!”. “Oi galera”, which is like when you’re addressing a lot of people at once. On Facebook they’ll always write, “Oi galera!” in the groups, and it means like “Hi, gallery,” you know, like a gallery of people.
I love how that changes but that is it, “Mesieursdames”? like… It’s like “Mr., Mrs., hello,”
“Monsieurdame! Bonsoir, monsieurdame! Monsieurdame”. Yeah… That’s something you have to just be careful with. And then, yeah, because, like, some things are a bit more formal in day to day life, so the whole thing of going into the shop and saying “Bonjour!” And the thing that always cracks me up, right, I noticed… I caught onto the fact that if you don’t know someone, even if they’re more or less your age…
You’ve got to do the “vous” thing, right?
Yeah, well… Not that, but it’s, like, the first time you meet someone you would say “Bonjour.” So even if it’s a younger person around your same age, because I was like “Oh, surely I can just say ‘salut’,” which is like “Hi!”. But no! If you’ve never met you say “Bonjour.”
I never knew that.
I’ve noticed that, and I’m like, “This is stupid because otherwise, if you’re young and you meet another young person for the first time you can’t just “Tu”. You know, if you’re both 25 you just say “Tu”. I mean I’m 32 now, so I’m probably leaving that kind of zone of being able to just say “Tu” to whoever I want. Yeah, and if people perceive you as younger… Like, I had to go and see a sort of specialist doctor yesterday, and it got a bit weird because, you know, he’s calling me “Vous” initially, and then he was sort of using “Tu”, because it’s like “Oh, well she’s young.” I don’t know what… I was just like “You know, you’ve got to decide mate because…”
I guess, for the context of listeners, the French have “vous,” which is like polite, plural “you”, and “tu,” which is like singular… I guess not impolite, but is kind of informal, right? It’s what you would use with friends.
It’s how you get closer to someone, you know. So that concept is difficult for French people learning English. It’s like “Well how do I show I’m the same level as someone?”, and it’s like “Well you can’t do it with a pronoun. You do it with other things.”
And the funny thing is that I’m always telling my students that in Australia you will… It’s like we automatically call everyone “tu” because it shows that we’re all friends, and that we’re all mates. So if I met the Prime Minister of Australia tomorrow, you know, like that dude at the top of Australia, he would probably say to me “G’day mate,” you know, which he would treat me like I was his best friend and that’s just like a weird Australian thing, where I think it’s partly where the anti-British establishment from when we were a colony, you know, the last few hundred years, and as a result of rebelling against the classes we treat everyone like they’re our mates, and so it’s just so weird. Like, I don’t know how I would act in front of the queen, you know. Like, I mean I probably wouldn’t say “G’day mate,” but it would feel like…
“How’s it going?”.
“You alright, how’s Philip?”.
Yeah exactly! That’s it, I know. But that’s the funny thing: That in Australia the good thing is that you can get away with calling people “mate”, or even saying “dude”.
I noticed recently, going around to different stores I was filming some stuff for videos, and I was referring to people as just “Dude”… “Hey dude, how you going?” Like, you know and people… They just don’t even flinch, it’s just “Yeah, whatever.”
That’s interesting because French life is definitely more formal, like… Also the thing… For a couple of years I worked in a French company, and I was in… It was industrial, so there was a factory and then there were office bits. And it just… It’s comical to me, again, like just spending all day bumping into people in the corridor going “Bonjour,” or you like… You run into the HR manger, “Bonjour,” shake hands. You run into the boss of the factory, “Bonjour!”, shake hands, “Bonjour!”, shake hands. And it’s just like “Is this like a Monty Python sketch?” Like, you know sometimes it just feels really silly to me, some of this sort of, you know, formal rules. But yeah the craziest one for me is “Okay, you don’t know this person, but you’re about the same age, you know, but you can’t ‘salut’ the first time , you must say ‘bonjour,’ but after that you can say ‘salut’ to this person whenever you want.”
That’s an unspoken rule, is it too? Where you don’t even… It’s not even like “Oh yeah! Make sure you do this,” It’s just something everyone seems to do, is it?
I’m going to have to double check it with some French people and some Anglophones, but for me… I’ve definitely noticed that . Like, you know, I’ve said “Salut!” to someone I’m being introduced to and then they’ve said “Bonjour” back! And I’m like “well… that was awkward.” Like…
You could just be like “Quoi de neuf mon pot!?”, you know, “What’s up, matey?”.
I think I’ll try that! Then at the same time you have to kiss them on the cheek. So it’s like… Alright, so, I can’t just say hi to you but I kiss next to your face? How… This doesn’t make any sense! Like, I should be able to say “salut” when we’re getting, you know, very close physically but…
Do you get leeway though, too? because you’re obviously not French. Do people at least go “Okay. Alright, you know, she’s not trying to be rude or anything, she just doesn’t get that we do these things without… that are unspoken rules, you know?”
Yeah I think I probably get away with… Yeah, to a certain extent. And also it depends on the environment. So in the university environment people do tend to use “tu” with each other. Very easily between colleagues. Obviously it it’s the dean of the university you’d have to use “vous”. But that’s quite… Whereas some workplaces… I think it just depends on the workplace culture, like how formal it is or not.
It’s so interesting though, that even obviously we have these same problems, between two cultures… Two cultures that you would imagine would be incredibly close to one another, France and England, and yet you guys have relatively big differences that you kind of have to stumble your way through when you’re learning how to… how to navigate that culture.
Definitely, definitely. Yeah. You can’t really understand it fully, I think, until you’ve seen it, kind of, on the ground and you’ve tried things out and you have seen the reactions, when you’ve observed people. I think you have to a lot of, kind of, observation of what other people do and then you kind of go in and… You know, you can try it yourself but… Yeah, you have to be a little bit careful, but yeah, you always you can always play that kind of foreigner card.
Would you have any… Any advice for French people learning English and coming to England or even Australia, or even foreigners in general? And, sort of, dos and don’ts, or how to get past this sort of situation? Learn how to how to navigate these situations.
Yeah! I think, like… You know… Yeah, definitely look at what other people are doing and what’s kind of, yeah, acceptable or not. Because ye, some things that are weird from… if you’re coming from any culture where people kiss each other like in France. So when we say “Kiss”, actually what you do is you just touch the other person’s cheek with your cheek and then you make a kissing noise. You know, when you… When you meet someone that you know and you do the *kissing noises* on each cheek, right?
But don’t kiss them on the mouth! That might freak them out!
…Like people… In a lot of Anglican cultures people will hug and I know that’s a bit weird for French people, so…
Yeah, that’s something I’ve encountered quite a bit. Where people I’ll meet for the first time and I’ll just be like “Yea, give us a hug,” you know, “what’s up?” And they’ll be like “…What?” And you’re just like “but that’s just what we do! we’re just friendly,” you know. Like, we don’t shake hands, it’s a bit formal and the kissing, we don’t do, but we hug.
Yeah, yeah! That’s it. Because it’s kind of awkward for my… Like, my partners French, so he doesn’t really… He doesn’t even like doing the kissing, even though it’s, like, in his culture. Although there are some men that he kisses! Like . .. He’s quite into the concert scene here where we live, and he knows people who run record labels and organise concerts, so when he sees them they’re thing is to do the kisses on the cheeks, not the shaking of hands. It’s just… It’s just that in that context… That’s what they kind of do.
See, that’s a big point though, right? No matter what, you know, part of the world you’re going to you kind of have to not just learn in a book what the context is for what you should be doing, but get in there. And then you learn because it might be different for different groups, and friends, and family, and could be anything.
This is… Yeah, this is why it’s really . .. Even like the tu/vous thing, when you start learning about it in books it looks quite straightforward. You’re like “okay.” Do I know the person, or do I not know the person? And then when you’re actually in France they add on like a million extra rules! It’s really, really complicated! But anyway… But yeah, the hugging thing… Yeah, it’s maybe trial and error, or, I don’t know, if it makes you feel weird e d out you’re allowed to say it, you know, you’re saying that it’s…
You need to embrace the fact that you will get a free pass, you know, if you’re a foreigner. People aren’t going to… Their automatic assumption will never be “this guy’s being a jerk, he’s being rude intentionally.” Yeah. So as opposed to if I did. If I did it to another Australian, they would understand instantly that… Well they would have these assumptions about what I know, and what I shouldn’t do or should do. Whereas for you, people will give you a lot of leeway often, because they think you’re getting used to how everything works.
Alright, guys. So, that was it for today. I really hope you enjoyed that interview. Massive thanks to Cara from Leo-Listening.com.
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AE 440 – Expression: Water Under the Bridge
The great job is done and the 7 years of “Thou shalt not trespass” to the public are relegated into the limbo of forgotten things. The bridge belongs to the man in the street and how he has taken possession of it. Posterity can never experience the thrill that we have known in watching it rise up slowly but surely, until today, it flung wide its gates.
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Today, is an expiration episode and the expression is ‘water under the bridge’, which we’ll get into shortly.
So, quickly, that scene at the start there was from a video from a film covering the opening, the inauguration, of the Sydney Harbour Bridge in the year 1932. So, there’ll be a link in the transcript if you would like to watch that entire video. It’s about, what, 80, 90 years old now? And it’s pretty cool seeing all these people wearing different clothing like hats and suits that all come from back in that period, not to mention the fact that the bridge is out in open space. You go there today in Sydney, in the CBD, and there’s buildings everywhere. So, it’s a very cool video to watch.
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Anyway, guys, let’s get into today’s episode. So, the expression is ‘water under the bridge’, hence why I’m talking about the Sydney Harbour Bridge. I thought that linked in nicely. And I also found a joke, a joke, about bridges. Okay. So, here’s the joke.
So, a man goes to see his doctor and he says to the Doctor, “Doctor! Doctor! I think I’m a bridge! I think I’m a bridge!”, and the doctor asks, “What’s come over you? Why do you think you’re a bridge? What’s come over you?”. And the man replies, “Three cars, a van, and a motorbike!”.
Woo! That’s killer. Alright. So, basically, the joke there is with the phrasal verb ‘to come over someone’. Okay? So, this has multiple meanings. The first one there is the literal version of ‘to come over someone’, like to go over someone, to go over the top of someone, i.e. getting run over by a car, for example. So, “What’s come over you?”. “Three cars, a van, and a motorbike.”, as would come over a bridge.
But, ‘to come over something’, as well, can mean to influence someone suddenly to behave a certain way. So, you could imagine that if the dog that you have in your house starts barking like crazy one night, you might say to it, “What’s come over you, mate? Why are you behaving like this? Why are you suddenly doing this? What’s come over you?”. So, that’s the joke.
So, today’s expression, guys, is ‘water under the bridge’. ‘Water under the bridge’. For something to be ‘water under the bridge’.
So, this was suggested by Kel in the Aussie English Classroom private Facebook group. This is where we all get together, all the members of the classroom, the Aussie English Classroom, and we chat in there, we do live videos, we work on our spoken English, and each week, I try to suggest expressions as well as get students’ expressions, and everyone votes on them for this episode.
So, it was a great suggestion Kel. ‘Water under the bridge’. So, great suggestion and it’s an English expression that’s used everywhere. This is not specific to Australia.
So, let’s go through and define the words in the expression ‘water under the bridge’. Okay?
So, ‘water’. I’m sure you guys know what ‘water’ is, a colourless transparent odourless liquid, which forms things like seas, lakes, rivers, rain, and it’s the basis for fluids used in living organisms. Right? You are probably 70 to 80 percent water, and you drink water. The sea is full of water. I’m sure you know what ‘water’ is.
The next word here is a preposition or a particle, ‘under’, right? ‘Under’. To be ‘under’ something that is to be beneath something. It’s the opposite of being above something or on top of something. If you are situated below something, if you are beneath something, you are under something. You know, animals live underground, animals like moles or worms or ants. They live underground.
The last word here is a noun, ‘a bridge’, right? ‘A bridge’. ‘A bridge’ is a structure built to carry a road or a path or a railway across river, road, valley, canyon, or any other obstacle. Okay? ‘A bridge’. So, the Sydney Harbour Bridge is a bridge. And we have a huge one in Melbourne called the West Gate Bridge. And these usually cross things like rivers or bays or roads, as we said before.
Alright. So. they’re the words.
Expression Definition & Origin:
What does the expression mean, though? When we put these words together and we use this expression ‘water under the bridge’, what on earth does that mean? Water under the bridge. Yeah, okay. So, there’s water and it’s under the bridge, what does that mean?
So, literally, ‘water under the bridge’ is exactly that. It is water that is beneath a bridge or water that is flowing below a bridge. It is going under a bridge. So, it’s allowed to flow beneath the bridge and it’s not obstructed by anything. It can freely move underneath a bridge.
But figuratively, when we say that something’s ‘water under a bridge’, it means that whatever’s happened in the past can’t be undone, it can’t be changed, you can’t go back in time and change things, so don’t worry about it. Let’s move on with things. It’s not a big deal. The past is in the past. What’s done is done. What’s happened is unchangeable. Let’s forget about it. It’s a water under the bridge, right? So, imagine it like water passing by under the bridge and it’s gone. It’s done. It’s finished. There’s nothing you can do about it so it’s not a big deal.
And you also hear this used like expressions, ‘what’s done is done’ or ‘the past is in the past’ or simply ‘the past’s the past’.
So, where did this expression originate from? The earliest example I could find was from 1934. So, a song was entitled ‘Water under the bridge’ and it was written by Paul Francis Webster, Lou Pollock, and it was performed by Fred Waring, and this was all the way back in the 1930s, and the first line of the chorus begins as, “We kissed and love flowed through my heart like water under the bridge.”. So, it’s probably not being used exactly as we use it today, but there it is ‘water under the bridge’.
Most recently too, as a quick mention, artists like Adele and Olivia Newton-John actually have songs called ‘Water under the bridge’. So, check those out on YouTube.
So, as usual, let’s go through three examples of how I would use this expression. If something’s water under the bridge, what does that mean? How would I use this in day to day life?
Okay, so example number one. Imagine that I’m walking through the city and I stumble into an old friend from primary school. So, I bump into an old friend from school. It was by chance. I didn’t expect to see them. So, I haven’t seen them in like 12 years and we have a bit of a chat after we’ve recognised each other, and maybe one of us realises that the other one was a bit of a brat, a bit of a rascal, in school and maybe bullied me or I bullied them, maybe we teased each other, we paid each other out a lot as kids. If one of us apologises for that and says, “You know what, I was a real naughty kid, I was a bit of a brat, I was a rascal when I was in primary school and I was nasty. Sorry about that. I really apologise for being horrible.”. The other person might say, “Man, that was 12 years ago. Nothing to apologise about. No worries. It was so long ago, it’s a water under the bridge.”. So, it’s in the past it’s unchangeable. It’s so long ago, forget about it. It’s water under the bridge.
Example number two. So, in this example imagine, you know, countries in Europe, in the Americas, in Asia, were all fighting each other in World War II, right? All of these countries were at each other’s throats. They were trying to kill each other. They were fighting for power. People hated each other. There was racism, genocide, rape, murder, torture, the deaths of millions of people. You guys will know about what happened in the 20th century there, in World War II. But today, many of these countries consider themselves allies. They consider themselves friends. They have good relations. They… their relations have improved since that time. So, all of that stuff that happened was in the past. What’s done is done, and today, it’s water under the bridge, right? So, even though England and Germany were on opposite sides in World War II, they’re now good allies in Europe. So, what’s done is done. What’s in the past is in the past. It’s all water under the bridge.
Example Number Three. Okay, so here’s a personal anecdote from me. When I was growing up, my sister and I really didn’t get along. We used to fight each other all the time. We’d be yelling at each other, teasing each other. Maybe my sister would run to my mum and dad and, you know, complain about me, she’d dob on me, or tell on me for something. Maybe I’d pull her hair or steal her toys. And so, we grew up really disliking each other. However today, we get along like a house on fire. We are pretty close, we hang out, we chat, we see each other quite a bit. So, everything that has happened in the past is in the past. What’s done is done. It’s unchangeable, but it’s all water under the bridge. We have a really good relationship now. We’re on good terms. So, if I pulled her aside and apologised to her, she would probably say to me, “Pete, don’t worry about it. It’s so long ago, it’s water under the bridge.”.
Alright guys, so by now, I hope you understand the expression ‘water under the bridge’. Remember, we used this to talk about anything that has happened in the past, a long time ago, and it’s unchangeable. You can’t undo it and you shouldn’t worry about it. So, what’s done is done and what’s in the past is in the past. It’s water under the bridge.
So, let’s do a listen and repeat exercise as usual, guys. This is your chance to practice your pronunciation, to try and focus on intonation and rhythm and connected speech, and if you really want to try and nail your Australian accent, it’s your chance to copy me as I speak. Otherwise, just say these words after me. Okay? So, listen then repeat after me. Let’s go.
Listen & Repeat:
It’s water under
It’s water under the
It’s water under the bridge x 5
Good job. So, now let’s just do a little bit more and I want you to imagine a situation where you want to say to someone, if they’ve apologised to you, that, “It’s not a problem, it’s water under the bridge”. But let’s use some common Australian English phrases. Okay? So, listen and repeat after me, guys. And this is how you would say, “Not to worry. It’s not a problem. It’s water under the bridge.”. So, listen and repeat.
All good. It’s water under the bridge.
Don’t worry. It’s water under the bridge.
No stress. It’s water under the bridge.
No dramas. It’s water under the bridge.
She’ll be right. It’s water under the bridge.
Great job, and I will mention here, if you want to make it even more informal and very, very friendly, you can add ‘mate’ at either end of either of those sentences. So, you could say “She’ll be right, mate. It’s water under the bridge.”, or you could say “She’ll be right. It’s water under the bridge, mate.”.
So, we use ‘mate’ in Australia a lot to really sort of emphasise the friendliness of discussions. Now, we might avoid using this on women, and some women may not decide to use this when they’re talking, in fact, most women probably won’t say ‘mate’, but if you’re a guy listening to this and you’re talking to other guys, especially Australians, don’t be afraid to say ‘mate’. It’ll really come across like you’re being incredibly friendly. Okay? So, there you go.
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So, let’s get into the Aussie English fact for today, guys, and then we will finish up.
So, the Aussie fact. Have you guessed what it’s about? It’s about the Sydney Harbour Bridge. So, I want to talk about that and I also want to talk about an interesting incident that occurred at the opening of the bridge in 1932. Alright so, let’s get into it.
The Sydney Harbour Bridge is probably in the top three icons or iconic symbols synonymous with Australia. So, you would also know, obviously, the Sydney Opera House and Uluru. Those three things tend to be synonymous symbols with Australia. When you see them, you know you’re thinking about Australia at the same time. So, anyone who knows about Australia will definitely recognise the bridge. And let’s go through some facts about the bridge.
The Sydney Harbour Bridge is steel, it’s made of steel, and it is a steel through arch bridge. So, it’s a… it’s made of steel, it’s in the shape of an arch, and you drive through the middle of it. It carries rail, vehicular, bicycle, and pedestrian traffic between the Sydney CBD, and the Central Business District, and the North Shore. So, it crosses the bay there.
The bridge is nicknamed the ‘Coathanger’, because of its arch-based design. And ‘a coathanger’ is something that you would hang a coat or any other item of clothing on in a wardrobe.
So, it’s the sixth longest-spanning arch bridge in the world and the tallest steel arch bridge measuring about 134 metres from the very top all the way down to the water level.
Its construction began nearly 100 years ago on the 28th of July in 1923. So, I guess 95 years ago. And it ended nine years later on the 19th of January in 1932. So, talk about a bridge that took a long time to build. Hey guys? And the gates were open to the general public about two months after its construction was complete.
So, the bridge was formally opened on Saturday on the 19th of March in 1932. And following the speeches being given at that event, Jack Lang, who was the Premier of New South Wales at the time, he was about to cut the ribbon and declare the bridge open when a man in military uniform suddenly rode up on a horse brandishing a sword, a sabre, and he slashed the ribbon in two and declared that the Sydney Harbour Bridge was opened in the name of the people of New South Wales before the official ceremony could begin.
So, this man was promptly swarmed by security and he was pulled from his horse, arrested, and escorted from the scene. The ribbon was hurriedly retired and Lang performed the official opening ceremony and the bridge was inaugurated, and the inauguration was followed by a 21-gun salute, as in, 21 guns were fired into the air as a celebration, and the RAAF or ‘RAAF’ the Royal Australian Air Force did a flypast, where all of these planes flew past above the bridge.
So, the intruder on horseback was later identified as Francis De Groot who was ultimately convicted of offensive behaviour and he was fined five pounds after a psychiatric test proved he was sane, but this verdict was reversed on appeal. And strangely enough, de Groot actually successfully sued the Commissioner of Police for wrongful arrest and was awarded an undisclosed out of court settlement. So, he might have even got more money than was the fine he was originally meant to pay, the five pounds, right?
So, De Groot was actually a member of a right-wing paramilitary group called the New Guard who were opposed to Lang’s leftist policies and resentful of the fact that a member of the Royal Family hadn’t been asked to open the bridge. So, these guys were obviously royalists, very passionate about the Royal Family, and wanted them to be at the forefront of this inauguration.
So, De Groot was not a member of the regular army, but he’d worn this uniform and it allowed him to blend in with the rest of the cavalry. So, that’s how he snuck in to this event.
After the official ceremonies, the public was allowed to walk across the bridge and there were somewhere between 300,000 and 1,000,000 people, 1,000,000 people, who took part in the opening festivities. So, that’s ridiculous, that’s crazy, because Sydney’s population at the time was only 1,250,000. So, if we assume that it was 1,000,000 people, that’s almost like 80 percent of the people in Sydney crossing it. And even if it was only 300,000, that’s still something like 20 percent. So, it’s a crazy amount of people that came to check out the bridge. I guess today, we’d probably just, you know, use our iPhones.
Anyway, today you can go and see this bridge. It can be viewed from many parts of Sydney’s CBD. You can get a train across, you can drive across it, you can cycle or walk across it, and you can even climb to the very top of it if you desire.
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AE 439 – Vlog: Burgers and Beer in Canberra | Australian Food and Culture
Oh! Burger’s. Glassworks. Burgers first. Okay, so here we are Brod Burger’s, guys. Massive selection of burgers on the wall and I think I’ve acquired my target, the Piri Piri. Oh, I love chicken burgers.
I might have to grab a beer as well to wash it down and those Hog beers look pretty good so let’s try those. Oh, man, you had to check out this little tip jar. It was so cute. Although, I don’t think it was edible.
So, I was an idiot and forgot to record myself getting ready to eat this burger. So, instead, I took a photo of it, guys. $16.50 for the Piri Piri Burger, the chicken burger, $3 bucks for the chips as well. So, almost $20 for that. And the steak burger that Kel got was $18 bucks. So, looks incredibly expensive, but this is the kind of price you’re going to pay in Australia for this kind of food. Junk food in Australia, especially takeaway junk food, is not cheap. And beer wise, I didn’t take note of how much the beers cost, but they’re usually, for a study like this, a glass bottle, they’ll usually be about $7 or $8 dollars each, usually. Especially, if they’re craft beers. And, I just grabbed two beers. These are Feral Brewing Company beers. So, they’re really good ones. Local here in Australia. The Smoked Porter. So, quite a dark one there. Got that to try. And the Hop Hog as well. So, I think that’s an IPA and I wanted to give that one to go too.
I’m not usually one for sweets, but straight after the burger we saw these interesting looking desserts of some kind, I’d never seen them, like cronuts* or something like that. So, Kel twisted my arm and we decided to grab one of these things and give it a whirl.
Every time we go somewhere the girlfriend wants to eat something sweet. Yeah, I’m totally full of shit. It was totally my idea.
That’s pretty intense. Man, bring on the diabetes. Holy moly! Oh, geez! It’s pretty brutal.
So, I’m still not 100 percent sure what this thing was, although, it was obviously some kind of pastry that had been made like a doughnut with chocolate sauce on top, and then I think it had custard or some kind of chocolate creme on the inside. So, yeah, sugar, sugar, sugar, and more sugar.
Oh my gosh! That was incredibly rich, but very good. Oh my gosh. Rich!
Alright, guys, we just had burgers and we decided to come down to the Canberra Glassworks, which was right next to the burger place, in fact they joined, and have a bit of a sticky beak, have a poke around and see what it’s like. So, let’s go inside and have a look inside the actual hot room and engine room, see what it’s all about.
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