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AE 456 – Expression: Burn the Candle at Both Ends
G’day you mob! How are you going? What is going on? I hope you’ve been having a great week.
I am down in Geelong this week hanging out with a mate. So, I’ve come down to visit here. I’m staying at his house while his folks, his parents, have gone over to Greece for six weeks. So, James’s folks have a pet cat, and James also has a pet cat, and his folks also have plants that need to be watered, and so, he’s decided to move in here to his folks’ house where he used to live a long time ago and take care of his cats. But one of them’s really funny. One of them is terrified of other humans. So, I don’t know why. It’s just always been that way, but it pretty much only likes James’s dad and maybe James a little bit, but everyone else it runs away from or isn’t seen at all. So, I’ve only seen that once or twice (in) the last few days. But his other cat, his cat, the one from his house, which is also here, is absolutely lovely. I love Thomas. He’s a funny can’t. You may’ve seen him in some of the recent vlogs that I’ve put up on YouTube.
Anyway guys, so today, it’s another expression episode. We will go through some announcements, a joke, we’ll go through the expression, what it means, the different words in it, where it came from, some examples, the listen and repeat exercise, and then an interesting Aussie fact, which will be about whaling in Australia today.
Anyway, guys, let’s get into it.
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Anyway, (that was a) bit of an intro, but let’s get into the Aussie English joke for the day, guys. The joke is: how do you make a candle burn longer? How do you make a candle burn longer? You can’t. They only burn shorter. (Do) you get it? You can’t. They only burn short.
So, how do you make a candle burn longer? The joke here being that longer can mean longer as in a duration of time, but it can also mean a physical length of something. So, a candle, when you light a candle and the candle is burning, it reduces in size. So, it’s a long thin thing that has a flame at the top of it and as it burns it reduces in size. So, it gets shorter.
But the joke here is that we want to know how we can make a candle burn for longer, like a longer amount of time, and the joke here is that they only get smaller in size.
Anyway, (I) hope you like that joke, guys. I know they’re always dad jokes, but these are clever puns that will help you understand more about Australian English and English in general. Okay?
So, today’s expression: ‘to burn the candle at both ends’. ‘To burn the candle at both ends’. This one comes from Dan who is in the Aussie English Classroom. Every week we get in the private Facebook group and we vote on these expressions. Dan put this one forth this week and everyone decided this was the best one. So, good job Dan. So, let’s go through and define the words in the expression ‘to burn the candle at both ends’.
So, ‘to burn’, ‘to burn’ is obviously a verb, ‘to burn’, ‘to burn’, and it means to be or cause to be destroyed by fire. So, if you put a piece of wood in the fire place and the fire’s obviously alight, the wood burns.
‘A candle’. ‘A candle’ is a long, usually, usually a cylinder or block of wax or tallow or, back in the day, it could be a whale oil, we’ll get to that in a bit, and it has a central wick. That is the piece of string with in the candle. It’s called a wick. And this is what is lit and produces light as it burns. So, a candle, when you light the wick in the candle, the substance the candle is made out of melts a little bit and is used as fuel. It gets soaked up the wick and it burns. So, if the lights in the house go out because of a blackout, you know, the power pole has come down in a car accident, you’ve got no electricity, you might use candles so that you can see if it’s night time.
Alright, the last word here ‘the end’ of something. So, ‘the end’ of something. This can mean a few things. It can obviously mean the final part of something like a movie, the end of a movie is the last few minutes of a movie. But in this sense, it’s more the furthest or most extreme part of something. So, for instance, the end of a bed. You might sit on the end of a bed. You might open a packet of food with the end of a knife, the tip of a knife. That is the end of something. The first or most extreme part of it.
So, let’s go through and define the expression, guys. If you burn the candle at both ends, I wonder if you guys have heard this one before, it means to overwork yourself, to exhaust yourself by doing too much, by doing too many things, especially, when you’re doing these both late at night and early in the morning. So, you’re living a hectic life. There’s a lot going on. It’s not sustainable. You’re overworking. You’re exhausting yourself.
And so, the modern idea of this expression, and we’ll get in to the original meaning, but the modern meaning, is that you’re using up the evening, you’re burning one end of the candle, the evening, and you’re getting up early in the morning, and using up the morning, and you’re burning the other end of the candle. So, if you imagine in your head that, in this case, the candle, which has a wick, which goes through the entire thing. You can light either end of a candle. If you imagine that candle is the night time where you would otherwise sleep, if you’re burning both ends of the candle, you’re working hard into the night and you’re getting up early in the morning to work. So, you’re reducing the length of your sleep, or of the evening, of the night. Okay? So, that’s burning the candle at both ends.
But the expression origin, guys, it didn’t have that idea when it was first coined. So, it was first coined in the 18th century, I think, the first use in English was in around 1730. However, it was used in French as far back as 1611: “Brusler la chandelle par les deux bouts.”, which means “to burn the candle by the two ends”. So, both ends, though, in this case were a physical reference to the ends of the candle and not the ends of the day. Okay?
So, back in the day candles were a useful and very valuable thing, and the notion of wasting a candle or suggested by lighting it at both ends was incredibly reckless. It was a bad idea. And so, this idea was that the only way for candles to be lit by both ends was to hold it horizontally, the wax, if it was lit, horizontally, would drip away from the candle and not burn, and you would waste the candle. It would be very unproductive. So, that was burning the candle at both ends. Okay?
So, let’s go through some examples, guys, of how I would use this in everyday English.
Alright, so example number one. I remember when I was at university. I was doing my bachelor’s degree in science and there were many kids there studying other things like commerce, and arts, law, medicine, all those kinds of subjects. But a lot of these kids, despite studying a lot and having to be there five days a week, you know, for eight hours, they were involved in sports. So, they had signed up for a sports team. They were playing footy, or hockey, or maybe doing athletics, or swimming, which required them to train several times a week. So, they’d have to get ready for games on the weekends or competitions on the weekends and they’d have to train with the team. So, students were often in a situation where they were studying late at night for exams, but then getting up early in the morning to train. And so, if this is the case, which it was, they were burning the candle at both ends. Their life was very hectic. They were very busy. They were overworking. They were exhausting themselves. They were working late into the night, and then waking up early in the morning. They were burning the candle at both ends.
Example number two. So, in this case, imagine that you have graduated from university after working your arse off, being on a team and burning the candle at both ends in that time, in that period. Imagine now you’re at university. You’re working as a lawyer for a law firm, and you’ve carried across, you’ve maintained that work ethic. So, now you’re trying to impress your new boss by getting to work really early in the morning, working all throughout the day, and then staying late into the night to get as much done as possible. You’re hoping that this will lead to potentially a promotion or something like that. If you’re doing this continuously, obviously, it’s unsustainable, and it’s incredibly hectic, it’s a the high-paced life, you’re burning the candle at both ends. You’re overworking yourself. You’re living a hectic life. Late nights, early mornings. It’s unsustainable. You’re burning the candle at both ends.
And number three here, guys. Example Number three is a personal anecdote. When I first tried getting Aussie English off the ground, so this was back in the day when I was starting my PhD, maybe six years ago, five years ago, I can’t remember the exact year, but when I was first trying to get Aussie English off the ground, I was studying my PhD, which was, you know, five-six hours a day, five days a week, I was trying to organise a website, create the content for the podcast episodes, put them online, have a Facebook page, have a YouTube page, and so it required a lot of work. And I was also training at the gym five days a week doing jujitsu at this time. So, I felt, at least looking back on this time, I was burning the candle at both ends. I was overworking myself. I was staying up late, getting up early. I was burning the candle at both ends.
So, hopefully now, guys, you understand the expression ‘to burn the candle at both ends’. This is to overwork or exhaust yourself by doing too much, by doing too many things, especially, both late at night and early in the morning.
So, as usual, let’s go through a little listen and repeat exercise here, guys, where you guys can practice your pronunciation, whether you want to sound like an Aussie or not this a good excuse to just speak out loud, say these sentences, say these words, and focus on your pronunciation. If you want an Aussie accent that’s awesome, try and copy me exactly. If you just want to perfect your English in general, ignore my exact pronunciation of each word and focus more on the rhythm and the intonation. Okay? So, let’s go
To burn the
To burn the candle
To burn the candle at
To burn the candle at both
To burn the candle at both ends x 5
I was burning the candle at both ends
You were burning the candle at both ends
He was burning the candle at both ends
She was burning the candle at both ends
We were burning the candle at both ends
They were burning the candle at both ends
It was burning the candle at both ends
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Alright, so today’s Aussie English fact. Today’s Aussie English fact is the history of whaling in Australia. Now, why did I pick this? What has this got to do with the expression, ‘to burn the candle at both ends’?
So, some of you might be thinking, “Well, whales were whaled to get oil to make fuel to use in lamps and in candles.”. And so, that was my train of thought. When I thought of what I could connect to the expression ‘to burn the candle at both ends’, I thought, “Okay. Candles, fuel, Australian history, whaling! Ah, this’s a good one!”.
Alright, so whaling did occur in Australia, and it was actually the number one industry in Australia after the colonists first arrived in 1788.
So, the first whaling station was located in a coastal town called Eden, which is in the south east of New South Wales, right on the border of Victoria and New South Wales. And soon after this period, there were whaling stations all around Australia, as well as on a few islands like Norfolk Island.
So, it was a booming industry between 1790s and the 1850s, and British colonies were not the only colonies to thrive off whaling in Australian waters. The US as well as Norway had a lot of ships hunting for whales off the shores of Australia as well. So, it was obviously a very lucrative business back in this period.
Whaling became a little less attractive in the 1850s in the face of the Australian Gold Rush. This was when they discovered gold in places like Bendigo, and, I think, Bathurst as well. I’m not sure, but there was somewhere in New South Whales too where they found gold in the 1850s. And so, obviously, it’s a lot more appealing to go into the Australian bush and look for gold in creeks and rivers near towns, etc., as opposed to getting on a ship and going away to, you know, sea for months at a time and potentially dying.
So, whaling reemerged as a revived industry in the 1900s, and this was thanks to the invention of the steam boat as well as the harpoon gun. So, both of these inventions, a steam engine used in boats to power boats so you no longer had to sail, and the harpoon gun, obviously, an explosive spear-throwing weapon, made whaling a great deal more efficient. So, it was a lot easier to do your hunting and get out in the ocean, etc..
So, whale stations increased during this time despite the decreased demand for whale oil as petroleum was invented around this time, and I think vegetable oil was also starting to be used for different things.
So, whales were hunted for numerous reasons. Whale oil was used in lamps and it was used to make soap and things like margarine. And whale meat was processed and traded and, you know, canned and sold overseas and around Australia. And the whale bones were used to make corsets, umbrellas, and things like wigs, which I found out. I never knew this.
Numerous species were targeted by the whaling industry, and these species included whales like, sperm whales, blue whales, humpback whales, southern right whales, fin whales, and even sei whales, and they were all hunted for different reasons depending on the different attributes of each of these whales. Notice there too they’re all baleen whales. So, these are the whales that have baleen, that thick hair-like structure in their mouth, and they use it for catching fish and krill and, you know, small animals in the ocean. They’re not toothed whales. So, I don’t think they were ever hunting things like orcas, killer whales, or dolphins around Australia, at least not to the same extent.
So, whaling was banned in Australia in 1978, and today, these whales are all classified as either vulnerable or severely endangered, although, the good news is that populations are increasing by about 8% a year as of 2015.
The International Whaling Commission, the IWC, was formed in 1946 to regulate the whaling industry and protect whales, and Australia was a member as of 1948.
So, as of 1999 the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act states that: the Australian whale sanctuary includes all Commonwealth waters within the sanctuary and it is an offence to kill, injure, or interfere with a whale and it will result in severe penalties for those who are convicted.
So, countries like Japan, Norway, and Iceland still participate in commercial whaling, even though there is an international ban that was implemented in 1986. However, these countries find a loophole in the system by saying their purpose for whaling is scientific research.
So, I thought I would finish up here, guys, sharing a little bit of my views on this and try to help you understand the Australian point of view, because I know I have some Japanese listeners, and some of them feel very passionate about whaling.
From the Australian standpoint, we just don’t like whales in our waters around Australia being hunted. It’s not something that modern Australia can remember doing. It’s a very old industry so they don’t tend to be any people who used to be involved in it around still.
Sea Shepherd is a bit of a controversial group that, you know, goes out there and harasses a lot of the whalers in the Australian waters and elsewhere in the world. A lot of people support them, but also condemn them. I tend to support them, because I don’t like the idea of whaling. But it’s one of those things where it is hard to argue against as well when it’s a cultural practice, though, that’s where things get murky. If it’s cultural, that’s fair enough, but if it’s being misrepresented as scientific when it’s not really scientific, that’s another problem. Okay?
Anyway, those are my sort of views. I like whales. I think they’re incredibly intelligent and I don’t like them being hunted. But at the same time, I am somewhat hypocritical, because I still eat meat. You know, I still eat cow, I still eat chicken. So, why I’m okay with one and not the other? There you go. I just feel uncomfortable with whales being killed.
Anyway, that’s it for today, guys. I would love to know your thoughts. Do you think whaling is okay? Do you think it’s not okay? Let me know what you think and I’ll chat to you next week. See you, guys.
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AE 455 – What Happens When You Stop Learning Grammar?
What a shit day. Do you know what else’s shit? Grammar.
What is going on, guys. I’ve come all the way down to Geelong this week to see folks and hang out with one of my mates, James. So, yeah, (I’m) just going to make some coffee. Coffee, coffee, coffee. I got this. This is what you got to resort to sometimes, guys. Oh, look at that! Little chocolate sprinkler. That’s really lame.
What do you reckon, guys? Is going to be good or is it going to be really, really horrible. Tear here, huh? So, that looks like crap. That looks like absolute crap. Can you see that, guys? Oh, my gosh! What is that? Is that sand? Far out. That is so funny.
Oh, it’s powdered milk! So, I get it. So, beautiful. Then you mix it in anyway, right? Amazing, amazing. Oh, that’s really hot. Really, really hot. That’s not bad. Not bad. Nestlé instant coffee, guys.
What is going on, guys? I am out here. Friend’s place. This is my back yard, the garage here. What have we got? The house here and a garden that his parents have really cultivated quite a lot.
But, I thought I would chat today about grammar, okay, and, I guess, making a push from intermediate to advanced. So, grammar, grammar, grammar, grammar, grammar. Why should you stop focusing on grammar? Why should you let go of studying grammar? And what happens when you do?
We all know the grammar’s kind of important. Obviously, it’s really important for obvious reasons, in any language, if you want to be clearly understood, you need to have good grammar.
I guess the point isn’t so much, today, that I want to say that you shouldn’t learn any grammar, but it’s how you go about learning it. So, for a long time, when I was doing French, I was learning grammar out of a book. I would just sit there and do exercises again and again and again, and I wasn’t focusing on a conversation. I wasn’t really using the language as much as I could. And more recently, at least with Portuguese, I’ve kind of done the complete inverse, the complete opposite, where I’ve refused to open any grammar books. I’m not looking up any rules at the moment. I’m just focusing on using the language. I’m just speaking, speaking, speaking. I make so many mistakes. But the interesting thing here is that even though I am making so many more mistakes I’m having, I feel, more complicated conversations, I am using the language a hell of a lot more, and I am not feeling as uncomfortable now when using the language despite, I think, making even more mistakes. So, when I was using French all the time, I would be obsessing over being correct. French has, at least for English speakers, relatively difficult grammar. And so, I wanted to focus on learning that, and I would always think in my head before speaking. I would always be like, “Okay. I want to use this structure. I want to say this certain thing. How do I place this sentence together?”.I would be thinking. I’d be sitting now. I would be trying to say the sentence in my head before I would go out and just say it. And it would lead to a lot of anxiety. It lead to a lot of overthinking when ultimately that interaction that you’re going to have with whoever it is, the native speaker who you’re about to say something to is just not going to care if you get things slightly wrong, if you misplace words, if you conjugate things incorrectly, if you use the wrong noun. Ultimately, what they care about is understanding you, whether you’re correct, or whether you’re incorrect. They just want to communicate, they want to understand what you’re trying to say, and they want to have that, I guess, interaction go well.
So, that’s the good thing, the good part, at least for me. I would be very anxious and very nervous when wanting to or having to speak with native speakers in French. I would put myself down. I would think my French was horrible when in reality it wasn’t that bad and I could speak much better French in reality than I would let myself speak, because I was always holding myself back stuck in my head.
So, the complete inverse has occurred with Portuguese now where I am talking, talking, talking, talking with Kel my fiancée all the time now, and I’m incorrect. Probably almost every single sentence that I say there is something that’s incorrect, whether it’s grammar, whether it’s pronunciation, whether it’s word choice, something is incorrect, but I’m communicating and that is the best part about this, right? That’s the whole point that you’re learning English. You’re not learning English to be correct, you’re learning English to communicate, to be able to express your opinions, to be able to understand the opinions of other people, right?
And so, at the moment, it’s really been interesting. For the last week and a half, two weeks, I have just been focusing on experiencing content… Are you kidding me? It’s started raining. Alright, I’m going to have to get under the cover. Get under cover.
Alright, for the last… Alright, for the last few weeks, I’ve just been focusing on exposing myself to sentences when I’m training. What I’m actually studying, what I’m doing is, I’m listening to real sentences from real native speakers and I am saying them out loud to work on my pronunciation and also train my brain for those patterns of how these words are constructed in these sentences. So, this is what I would suggest. If you want to learn grammar, this is a different approach, this is a more passive approach, as opposed to active approach. I’m not actively using a book. I’m not actively, systematically going through a book to learn rules and then try and apply them. Instead, I’m just exposing myself to natural language and then trying to use that when I speak.
One good example the other day was that I was studying in bed with Kel next to me, and in Portuguese, instead of saying… I’m to remember the example. So, instead of saying, “I usually do something”, like “I usually go to the shops”, “I usually have a shower in the morning”, “I usually eat breakfast in the morning”. In stead of, “I usually do something”, which is a structure that we use in English all the time, the Portuguese say, “Eu costumo”, “Eu costumo”, which is like, “I…”, How would you translate that? “I…” and then the verb for like “accustomed”, to do something… It means “to do something usually”.
Anyway. The structure’s completely different. So, what I did was that I was studying these sentences and quite a few of these sentences used this structure. “Eu costumo andar”. So, “I usually walk”. “Eu costumo ter cafe da manhã as sete horas”. “I usually have breakfast at seven o’clock”. And so… and I remember this now, after doing this, I was doing these sentences, I finished my sort of study of just reading the sentences out loud, thinking about them, saying them, saying them, saying them, and then I turned to Kel, my fiancée, and this is also what’s useful if you have someone who you can speak with, and I said, “I’m going to try and use as many examples as possible of “eu costumo”, “eu costumo”. Can you correct me and tell me if I’m wrong or can you ask me more?”.
So, that was a really, really good passive way, I feel, of picking up an important part of grammar that I’m going to use too. And that’s another point. When you do this, you focus on it using the language that is important to you and important to your everyday life. You don’t need to learn every single rule in English, because you’re not going to use every single rule in English, at least on a day to day basis. You need to passively be able to understand what’s happening in English, but you don’t necessarily need to know the grammar rules to do that, right?
So, anyway, that’s what I’ve been doing recently and it’s been so, so, so, freeing. It’s really, really allowed me to stop being so anxious, to stop… Sorry, there’s mosquitoes. Get away from me! …to stop freaking out, to stop being in my head so much, to stop thinking so much, and it’s allowed my language to flow so much more readily when I speak. So, now when I speak with Kel, even after only a week and a half, my language, my Portuguese, has made leaps and bounds ahead of where it was just because I’ve kind of let go. I’m definitely making many, many, many, more mistakes than I was, but I’m also using the language a hell of a lot more than I was and I’m not worrying as much as I was in the past. I’m not in my head freaking out thinking, “Am I going to be wrong? Am I going to look like an idiot?”. I no longer care.
And this was a really good point too, and something that I wanted to mention. I watched a lecture recently about how polyglots learn languages. So, a polyglot is someone who learns many languages, or at least who can speak many languages. So, these people tend to learn one language for a year or two, and then they’ll switch to another language, and another language, and quite often, you find out that they speak, you know, five, eight, 10, sometimes even 20 languages, guys. It’s ridiculous. And it’s easy for the average person to put them on a pedestal and to think these people are just non-humans who have this special gift for learning languages, but the lecture was showing that that, in fact, isn’t the case. These people have a system, which the system quite often differs, for at least how they like to get started, but towards the, I guess, intermediate to advance area of any language that they’re learning, quite often, they’re all similar in that they make as many mistakes as they can and they don’t care about making mistakes, and they speak as often as they can and focus a lot more on communication. Okay?
So, I’ve been talking for a bit. It’s kind of just been a stream of thought following my train of thought. I wanted to get this out there and I wanted to ask you guys, how were you learning grammar right now? And maybe, do you think it could be potentially a time or sort of a chance for you to mix things up a bit, to change things and to try something different? So, if you are a bit stuck on where you’re not improving a whole lot, you’re feeling like you don’t have much confidence when you speak, you’re too in your head, maybe this is something that you should focus on. So, try maybe and go out, find a native speaker whether online whether in person in Australia if you’re here, obviously, and just… the next time that you have a chance to talk with them, don’t focus on grammar. Correct yourself. You know, if you make mistakes and you notice those mistakes getting made, correct yourself. And this makes you look smarter by the way. Every time I make a mistake at the moment and I notice it I correct myself and Kel’s always like, “Wow, you know what’s going on! That’s really, really good!”. So, speak as much as you can, use your English, don’t focus on mistakes, aside from maybe counting how many are making and the more you make the better. You know? Give yourself a pat on the back the more mistakes you make.
Anyway. Let’s have a chat in the comments, guys. I want to know how you’re learning grammar, how you’re learning to improve your English, and what you’re doing at the moment, and what you’ve had success with, and yeah maybe we can talk a bit about this another time as well.
So, that’s it for today, guys. I’m going to get inside before these mosquitoes eat me alive and I will tell you soon. Peace out.
Yeah, look at this. (It) rained for like all of 10 seconds.
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G’day, guys. What’s going on? Welcome to this episode of Aussie English.
I’m in the car about to go for a drive, but I wanted to do the intro to this episode.
We’re going to be learning fast English, guys, spoken contractions.
How to sound like a native speaker.
We’ll be doing it slowly, and then we’ll be doing it really fast.
Let’s get into it.
G’day, guys. Pete here from the Aussie English Podcast.
Today, I want to train you guys to start speaking English faster.
So, this is going to help your pronunciation, but it’s also going to help your listening comprehension when you come across those English speakers who tend to speak a little too fast.
This video’s going to help you.
So, I’m going to say these greetings and goodbyes first slow,
I want you to repeat, and then I’ll say them fast, and I want you to repeat again.
So, let’s give this a go.
4. Good day
5. How is stuff?
6. How are you?
7. How is things?
8. How are things?
9. How is it going?
10. How do you do?
11. How is it hanging?
12. How are you going?
13. How (are) you going?
14. How are you doing?
15. How (are) you doing?
16. How have you been?
17. How (have) you been?
18. What is up? – S’up?
19. What is new?
20. What is the news?
21. What is news?
22. What is going on? -> s’goin’on?
23. What is the gossip? -> What’s the goss?
24. What is been going on?
25. What is happening?
26. What has been happening?
27. What the latest news?
28. What is the latest (news)?
29. What have you been up to? – Whatcha bin upta?
3. Bye bye!
5. (See you) later!
6. See you later
7. See you soon
8. See you
9. Catch you later
10. Catch you
11. Catch you soon
12. See you later on
13. Catch you later on
14. Chat to you later
15. Chat soon
16. Talk to you later
17. Talk soon
18. Have a good day
19. Have a good one
20. Take care
22. Peace out
24. See you on the flipside
25. Take it easy
26. Until tomorrow
29. Au revoir
So, there you go, guys. That is obviously in an Australian accent.
That isn’t every single different combination of greetings or goodbyes.
I’m sure there are other ones.
But this is going to be a big step for you guys to learn to pronounce things more like a native, to get those contractions happening and that spoken English to another level.
Okay? So, keep repeating, keep listening, keep repeating this exercise and eventually these sentences will just come out naturally, or you’ll hear them and you’ll know exactly what people are saying.
Okay? So, I hope you enjoy this, guys.
If I’ve forgotten any, make sure that you comment below and let me know, have you heard any other greetings or goodbyes in the English-speaking world?
Chat to you soon!
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AE 450 – Walking with Pete: Sorrento Road Trip
Alright, guys. What is going on? Welcome to this episode of Walking with Pete. It has been a little while, it has been a little while, and that is because I’ve been doing a lot of these vlogs, right? So, I guess they kind of cross over quite a bit with Walking with Pete, as a lot of the time these blogs are me outside walking around.
Anyway, it’s 11… almost 11:30am. Been working at home this morning. Put up a new vlog where I went into Canberra and had some burgers with Kel. So, Australia’s Best Burgers. This is probably my favorite burger joint ever. I really recommend checking out Grease Monkey if you’re gonna come to Canberra. Some free advertising for them. But yeah, I love chicken burgers and you guys will see that in this… in this vlog, and there’s heaps and heaps of good… I guess, vocab and expressions, and you get to see me order the burgers and the beers, and how I interact with people when I’m ordering food or drink. .
Anyway, so I did that this morning, and now I’m just outside in the charming Canberra weather. It’s one of those… one of those places, it’s so strange because you walk outside and in the shade it’s cold, but the moment the sun hits you it’s really warm. So, I don’t know if you guys have experienced that before, but I don’t know, there’s quite a few places like that especially in southern Australia, the lower portion of Australia, where in the sun it tends to be really, really hot. I don’t know if that’s like the movie from the sunlight that warms your skin up. But then, in the shade it’s really cold. It’s always hard to decide what to wear. I always bring a jacket when I go for a walk like this to get coffee and if the sun comes out I get really hot and I want to take it off and as soon as the sun disappears, I want to put it back on. So, pays to be prepared. It pays to be prepared.
Just let me cross the road here. So, I’m going for a walk to grab some coffee, because I like to get out of the house, try to be a bit active, do some exercise, not just sit on the couch all day long every day, which is definitely one of those things that becomes easier and easier to do the older you get, right? And especially, if you’re working from home, it becomes easier and easier to find excuses not to go outside, and instead to stay on the couch all day in and work away. And so, every day, I’m trying to come out and get coffee, and head down to… head down to the local cafe here, which is… which is really good. I really like going down here. There’s some great… some great coffee from this place. I think it’s called Plunge, which is in Belconnen, in Canberra.
Anyway so, I thought I do a Walking with Pete episode today, guys. Hopefully, the cars in the background isn’t too loud. Sorry about that. We’ll get past them eventually. And I thought I would talk to you about my weekend. I had a really interesting weekend for multiple different reasons.
So, Kel and I went down to Sorrento, which is a beachside town in the south east of Victoria. It’s sort of near Melbourne. It’s probably about an hour and a half’s drive outside of Melbourne. But obviously, for us it was a lot longer than an hour and a half considering we were coming down from Canberra. So, Kel found out that she had Monday off so we could do a long weekend, ’cause it’s not really worth going all the way down to Melbourne from Canberra, which is a… probably an eight to nine hour drive if you’re not going to spend a significant amount of time there, right? Like, if we go down as usual and we leave on a Friday afternoon, we will arrive in Melbourne from Canberra at about midnight so probably at 12:00 p.m., it takes about eight to nine hours. We’ll get Saturday and if we don’t have a long weekend, we have to drive back on Sunday. So, we have to leave at about 9:00 a.m. in the morning, which means we get back at about 6:00 in the afternoon. And so, you only really get Saturday to hang out, and obviously, you can’t really have too much for late one at night, on Saturday night, ’cause you’ve got to get up early on Sunday to drive home. So, that’s why we tend to try and make sure we get long weekends, and then we drive down. So, that we at least get two days to hang out and do our thing and spend time with friends and family. And so, fortunately, this weekend that’s what happened. So, Kel had the Monday off. We drove down after work on Friday, I think, we got down there, again, at about 11:30, maybe, we got there a little earlier. Went inland. So, we took the inland road. That’s a little quicker than the one that is somewhat closer to the coast, which goes around the mountain range. There’s a mountain range in… along the east coast of Australia, and so going from Canberra to Melbourne you can go either side of that mountain range, and the inland side is quicker by about an hour, and the outside version takes an extra hour, though, the scenery is a lot nicer. You get to go up and down through the hills. You get to see trees and the farms are a lot nicer, but the… it’s not the… it’s not the same freeway, right? So, you can’t travel this quickly. That’s why it takes longer. It’s not 110 kilometres the whole way. It maxes out at about 100 k’s for most of it on the east… the coast road.
Anyway, so we drove down there and we got to stay at a Bed and Breakfast. So, dad got in contact probably in the last few years with a friend of his from his primary school. So, this lady… dad and her, they’ve known each other longer than anyone else who was there, right? So, they had been friends when they were like 5 years old at primary school, and so, they got back in touch at a… I think it was a school reunion or something like that a few years ago, and dad’s a photographer so he went over there for a weekend, I think, with Mum for their anniversary earlier this year, and in exchange for being able to stay there, dad did the photography of the house for the website, because the the lady that let us stay there, who owns this house, needed some really nice photos for the for the website.
I’m just looking at the ground. There’s horse poo on the ground. That’s really weird. I don’t know why there would be a horse walking around in Canberra. It’s very strange.
Anyway, so yeah, he got to do that at the start of the year and sort of, you know, reform this relationship with her, and it was my mother’s birthday this weekend on the 28th. So, my mum’s trying to make it a yearly sort of tradition now where every time it’s her birthday, the… she likes getting everyone together and going away on a holiday. So, last year we went to Lord Howe Island, which was really beautiful. This year, obviously, we went to Sorrento. Who knows where we’ll go next year. But yeah, it was really cool, and we got to stay there for free in the end. Well, I mean, not… you know, my parents were paying for the place anyway. They didn’t expect us to come down, because we didn’t find out about having a long weekend end to the week… I think, last week, during the week we found out and were suddenly like, “Oh, by the way, we’re going to come down and see you guys in Sorrento.”, and it just happened that the place they’re staying at has extra room. So, we got to stay there.
It was really good though. It was really good. I got to hang out with Antica and Rory, my sister and her partner, as well as their daughter Isabel who’s growing up really, really quickly, though, she’s a… she’s a bit of a cry-baby at the moment. She has a lot of tantrums. She gets a little cranky quite a lot at the moment. .
And So yeah, we chilled out there for two days, three days, and just enjoyed this beautiful old house that had like wooden… wooden walls and timber roofs and really nice furniture. So, it was really cool to hang out there. I had one of my friends as well drive down from Melbourne. He came to see us. .
Sorry About the noise, guys. I’m just crossing the highway so it’s probably really loud, but I’m trying to talk closer to the mic. Good practice listening comprehension.
Alright. Let’s try that again. Let’s try that again. I’ve gotten to the other side of the road so it should be a little quieter now.
Anyway, so yeah. So, we went… we drove down. But oh, there was a funny thing that happened whilst Kel and I were driving down. Obviously, when we’re driving down, we need to stop, you know. You need a toilet break. You need to get food. You need to get drinks. And we kind of stocked up on quite a bit of food from the house. You know, we tried to save a bit of money by making some sandwiches and just, you know, taking anything else out of the cupboard or the pantry that was perishable or that was food that needed to be eaten, and taking taking that with us to eat on the road. I also went to the shops and grabbed some nuts and berries and stuff. I love doing that. And so yeah, oh, we’re driving down, right? So, we’re driving down, I need to go to the toilet, I need to take a pee, and then, we stop at this place, this tiny, tiny, tiny little town somewhere and there’s the toilet there, the dunny, the loo. We get out to go to the toilet, come out, get back in the car, and this bogan… bogan-mobile, this car that was definitely owned by a bogan. And if you guys don’t know what a bogan is, it’s kind of like an uncouth, unsophisticated person in Australia. So, usually someone who isn’t very educated, swears in public, spits, drinks in public. It’s just does all these kind of socially unacceptable things, but has no problem doing them in front of people in public. And, you know, it tends to make people revile a little bit, like sort of “ehhhh!”. Anyway so, this guy drives up in a ute, typical ute, bogans tend to love utes. He drives in effectively doing a burnout, parks his car, and then, I’m thinking, you know, “Ok, he’s got to go to the toilet really badly that’s why he’s doing this.”, and so, he drives up and he ends up parking on, I think it was a disabled parking spot too, which is a big no-no in Australia. If there’s these blue symbols that are wheelchairs on, I guess, carparks where you can’t park, because they’re for disabled people. And he parked on top of that and jumped out of the car metres away from the toilet, right? Five metres away and just whips out his kit, I don’t want to say it, and just starts urinating right there, just starts taking a leak on the spot right in front of the toilet.
And sort of like, you’ve driven all this way, you’ve come off the highway, you’ve parked your car right in front of the dunnies only to get out of your car and take a piss in front of the toilets whilst your girlfriend goes into the toilet?! So, that was interesting. Kel was kind of like sitting there going, “What the fuck!? What the fuck is going on? Why is this dude like this?”. And I’m justsort of like, “That’s bogans in Australia, Kel. That’s… Some people just do not give a fuck. They do not care.”.
Okay, alright. So, that was one interesting event that happened on the way down to Ocean Grove. Another funny thing that happened this week was that I was sitting in bed with Kel, I think, the night before we were going to drive down to to Melbourne, and I didn’t realise, but my phone, I have got an Apple phone, right, and I’ve got an iMac computer, and I don’t know what happened. I updated them recently and now every time I get a phone call on my phone, it comes up on the computer and I can answer it on the computer. So, we were sitting in bed and I was just working on some stuff. I think Kel was asleep and Mum suddenly calls, and it’s like, you know, 10 o’clock at night and I’m like, “Oh, this can’t be good.”. So, I answer the phone and I’m like, “Hey, Mum, How’s it going?”, and she’s like, “Ah, nanna’s broken her hip.”. I’m like… and I don’t mean to laugh, you know, I’m not… it’s not funny, because she’s hurt herself, but it’s funny, because it’s a very stereotypical thing for old people to experience where they fall over and break their hip, and my grandmother’s just, you know, these… it’s just how could this have happened to her kind of thing. It’s like, oh my gosh, drama after drama, right, like problem after problem.
Anyway. So, apparently they’d gone to, my grandfather and my grandmother, had gone to see their accountant, I guess, during the week, and my nanna had been walking down some stairs and the rail that you hold onto while you walked down some stairs stopped early before the end of the stairs. And so, she thought she was at the bottom, but she wasn’t. And so, she took a step and ended up falling out of… or over onto her side and broke her hip. The funny thing… the funny part about it, my nanna’s really stubborn and doesn’t like being a bother, right? She doesn’t like people helping her. And so, she had fallen over, broken hip, didn’t realize she’d broken the hip, and was just like, “Oh, she’ll be right” and tried to get back up, and obviously, couldn’t. Gets help back into the car by some people and my grandfather, and when they get home, nanna still didn’t realise that she’d broken yet, and was just like, “Oh, I’m just going to rest, you know, and the bruising will go down and it’ll be fine.”. So, they call it my uncle who funnily enough used to sell hip replacements. He comes over and he knows instantly, “Yeah, her hip’s broken.”. And so, she’s had to go to hospital. She’s had to have surgery pretty much that day. She… Fortunately, she didn’t need a hip replacement or anything. They just… it was the knob, the end of the socket joint on the femur that leg bone that had broken off. And so, I think they just use some metal and stuck it back in, you know, reattached it to the bone. And so, she’s got to rehab now and we’re just hoping she does the rehab properly and we’ll be okay. But that was, yeah, another thing. They were meant to be coming down to the birthday with my mum down in Sorrento, but obviously couldn’t, because nanna was in hospital. So, just another strange, funny, accidental, coincidental thing that occurred. Yeah. It was an interesting weekend.
And so, aside from that, guys, I guess, you know, this Sorrento weekend went really well. We drove back yesterday along the coast. So, we took the long one and got home just before I had a few lessons online. So, that was good. We got home in time, but it was a lot more relaxing along that road, because it was a bit slower-paced, a lot less traffic, and just calmer, really nice. So, Kel sort of chilled out, kept me company, fell asleep quite a bit in the car, but it was really good. We got home and it’s funny how quickly you get sort of accustomed to driving long distances. It doesn’t really bother me anymore doing the long distance stuff. Nine hours doesn’t seem that bad. Whereas, when I was living in Melbourne, if you made me drive an hour I would have been like, “Are you serious?”.
So, anyway, yeah the trip was really good. Got back yesterday, have been working on the podcast, going through emails, working on the vlog, thinking about things. So, this week I’m going to try and bring in the the membership for the podcast website, guys. So, for anyone who wants to get access to transcripts, it’s just going to be a five-dollar monthly membership in order to get access to transcripts. And just remember, this is because I’m trying to hire someone to transcribe these episodes. So, every episode that’s about an hour long, usually, to prepare it, to transcribe it, it will take me anywhere from two to three to four hours and the person that I’ve hired it took him, the first time he was doing one, it took him six hours to transcribe one hour of text. So, that is why I am trying to bring through the… or I’m going to bring through the membership for the podcast transcripts, because I need for money to be coming in so that I can pay someone to do that for me. So, hopefully, that allows me to bring you guys more material, higher quality material, because I really think it’s important for you to have the transcripts. Obviously, the other option was to just not have transcripts, but I feel like they’re very important for you guys learning English who like to read and listen and study them for vocab. I really, really, really think transcripts are important. So, that’s why. And also, it’s going to free up my time so that I don’t have to transcribe them and I can do something else with that time like creating this kind of content.
So, that’s going to happen this week. This will be the interview episode for this week. I’ll get that out there. And then, I’m going to work on putting the membership thing together. Anything you’ve downloaded in the past, guys, is obviously going to be available for you still, you know like, as in, if you’ve downloaded it onto your computer it’s there. You can use that. But yeah, I will be requiring anyone who wants to get new episodes as well as the… access to the old ones, everything will be behind a pay wall so you need to sign up, and it’s just five dollars a month, right? So, it’s very, very, very cheap. Just consider it a donation, guys, to help me make more of these transcripts for you guys who really value these materials. .
Aside from that, I got an email about someone sort of… a listener Ali, I really appreciate the e-mail. He was sort of critiquing the podcast and giving me ideas on how to improve the quality. And so, he was effectively suggesting that the quality has diminished a little bit recently because of the uploading of vlog episodes as one thing I think he was getting at. So, I wanted to ask you guys what you thought of having the vlog episodes on the podcast, because I know that they… a lot of the time they’re visual. You need to be able to see what is going on to sort of understand what I’m talking about. So, I have noticed that they get fewer lessons… ah lessons (?!), they get fewer listens* than some of the other episodes, but I just, yeah, I wanted to put it to you guys and ask you to send me an email. So, when you get this email, this notification, that this episode is up can you reply and let me know whether or not you would like the vlog episodes to just remain on YouTube and not be added to the podcast or whether you really, really enjoy the vlog episodes on the podcast as something to listen to easily in the background even if you can’t see what’s going on. Please let me know and I will make a decision soon about whether or not to keep uploading them on to the podcast. So, yeah, your feedback’s essential. Let me know, do you like them? Don’t you like them on the podcast? And yeah if you don’t like them, if most people say they don’t, I’ll take them off.
Aside from that, announcement’s wise, yeah. He also wanted me to sort of keep reassessing how I am designing these expression episodes. He was worried that some of them weren’t as common expressions that would be used by most Australians. So, as well, if you guys don’t like hearing sort of, I guess, funnier content, stuff that Australians will know, but may not necessarily use as well, then, yeah, let me know. I think his example was the one that was like “kick the dog”, if someone farts, which I thought was, you know, a funny episode, although, you may not actually use that expression ever. But yeah, let me know what you think, guys. If you just want me to focus on English that you can use as opposed to English that you may encounter.
So, this episode’s probably gone long enough, guys. I’m about, I don’t know, 2 minutes away from the cafe. Sorry again about the background noise, but glad to have sort of gotten to chat to you guys a bit and share my thoughts with you about the podcast, where it’s going, everything like that.
And yeah, that’s probably enough for today, guys. I hope you’re having an awesome week. I hope your English is improving. I hope that you are having fun doing whatever you do wherever you are and I will chat to you soon, guys. I really appreciate your audience-ship. I really appreciate the fact that you guys listen to me. So, I’ll chat to you soon. See ya!
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AE 448 – Expression: Get Cold Feet
G’day, guys. What is going on?
I hope you’ve been having a ripper of a week. I’m back again. It’s another Sunday and it is another expression episode, guys, and today’s episode is going to be a ripper. So, it’s going to be awesome. We’re going to be talking about penguins. That was the intro scene there that you had at the start. It was a video clip from BBC Earth’s YouTube channel. So, there’ll be a link in the transcript for that. If you love wildlife, definitely go check out that channel. But that was David Attenborough speaking.
I’m a massive fan of David Attenborough and it was his 92nd birthday probably two weeks ago on the 8th of May. He was born and a few days after the Queen of England. So, he’s 92 years old. Pretty crazy.
Anyway, a quick anecdote. Yeah. I grew up always watching David Attenborough films. So, my parents were both zoologists and they met at Melbourne University, I think, in the 70s, maybe the late 70s is when they met, and yeah, obviously got married, had kids, and we grew up with a heavy dose of wildlife. So, we would watch docos, we’d go camping, we’d go to the zoo. Absolutely loved animals. So, that was my sort of upbringing and obviously why I ended up going to university, the same university that they met at, and studying the same thing they did zoology.
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Anyway guys, let’s dive into today’s episode. We’ll be covering the expression ‘to get cold feet’, and this was suggested by Dan in the Facebook group. So, we’ll get into that.
But First let’s do a joke. So, the joke here is related to penguins. You know, had to connect these two things.
What Do penguins eat for lunch? So, penguins, the small little birds that live in the ocean. What do they eat for lunch? ‘Ice-burgers’. ‘Ice-burgers’. Do you get it?
So, Obviously, icebergs are those large pieces of ice that break off in Antarctica or in the Arctic, in the north… northern hemisphere.
And ‘burgers’ are obviously, you know, hamburgers or chicken burgers. They’re a kind of food where you have lettuce and cheese, bacon, other kinds of meat, and you have bread on top. That’s a burger, right? So, the joke here is ‘ice-burgers’.
Anyway, guys, today’s expression, ‘to get cold feet’, and you may also hear this as ‘to have cold feet’. So, let’s go through and define these words guys.
‘To have’. If you have something, you possess something, okay? You own the thing, you have the thing, you possess the thing.
‘To get’. If you get something you acquire that thing. So, you didn’t have it to begin with and then you got it, you acquired it, and now you possess it. And this can be physical things like, you know, a burger or it can be, I guess… well, still physical, but not like an item, okay? Like, you can get cold. You can get hot. You can get wealthy. You know? It doesn’t have to be something you can hold in your hands.
‘Cold’. ‘Cold’. I’m sure you guys know it’s the sort of… the temperature that is incredibly low. It’s not hot. If you’re shivering, if you’re out snowboarding in winter, you’re probably going to get cold.
And The last one here, guys, ‘feet’ the plural of ‘a foot’. This is the lower extremity of the leg below the ankle and you would usually stand on your feet. You would walk on your feet. You would run on your feet, right? Your foot, each foot, has five toes, a big toe, a little toe, and the three toes in between.
Anyway guys, what does the expression ‘to get cold feet’ mean? So, if you ‘get cold feet’ it means that you lose your nerve, that you lose your confidence, that you become timid, and it’s usually used as a polite way of saying… well, not necessarily polite, but a nice way of saying something like ‘to chicken out’, ‘to wuss out’, or ‘to bail on’ something and these are sort of phrasal verbs that mean to abandon something because you got too nervous, right? You wussed out, you chickened out, you bailed out.
So, where did this originate from? We’re not really sure but it originates from about the 19th century, the late 19th century, though again, the exact origin isn’t known. However, experts suspect that this expression may have something to do with the military, an environment which certainly offers a plethora of things to fear, situations to run away from, to bail on, to get cold feet from, and you would also imagine that there are plenty of situations where you could get cold feet, literally, in the army, you know? You’re running around in your boots and it rains, you got cold feet.
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So, as usual guys, let’s go through some examples of how I would use the expression ‘to get cold feet’ or ‘to have cold feet’ in day to day life. Okay?
So, example number one. Example number one is that you are at a wedding. Okay? And there’s a bride and groom, there’re two people who are about to get married. I mean, well, in Australia there’s gay marriage so it could be two grooms or two brides, but I imagine it’s a bride and groom in this example.
So, the bride hasn’t shown up. She hasn’t come to the wedding ceremony. And this is a classic example of where you’re likely to hear this expression. So, maybe she’s running late because of photography. You know, they’re trying to take photos of somewhere and she’s not happy with the photos. Maybe she is trying to do her makeup still or get her wedding dress on. Or maybe there’s transport issues, you know? Maybe they’re getting delayed because of that, the bridal party is getting delayed. Or maybe she’s changed her mind. Maybe she doesn’t want to get married to this guy anymore. So, she’s decided, “I’m scared. I’m nervous. I’m not confident about this decision. I’ve got cold feet.”. Okay? So, she’s got cold feet. She’s changed her mind. She’s lost her nerve, her confidence. She’s got cold feet. And if the crowd start murmuring, maybe they’re gossiping. It’s been a long time. She hasn’t shown up yet. They might be thinking, “Is she going to leave the groom standing at the altar because she’s got cold feet?”.
Example number two. Alright so pubs in Australia, these are places you can go and drink, and you can eat food, usually alcoholic beverages, and you’ll often see things like bands or single musicians playing at these venues. Pubs in Australia often have events called ‘Open mic nights’. So, ‘an open mic night’ is where you have the microphone for someone to sing into or play into… is it’s open for anyone to use. You just have to get in line. Right? You have to put your hand up and say, “I want to sing. I want to read out some poetry. Maybe I want to do some stand-up comedy.” Right? So, you’re a performer. You’ve gone to a pub. It’s a… it’s an open mic night, and you’ve told all your friends to come with you, because you want to get up and do some stand-up comedy or maybe you want to read a poem or maybe you want to sing a song. If your turn comes up, though, and you freak out, you get a little nervous, you lose your confidence, and you become timid, you might decide not to get up on stage and sing the song, read the poem, do some stand-up comedy. You’ve got cold feet. You have cold feet, because you’ve wussed out, you’ve chickened out, you’ve got cold feet.
Example number three here, guys, and this was something that I used to get faced with all the time. When I was doing jiujitsu my coach would always be hassling us, always asking us, always pestering us, trying to sort of guilt trip us into competing, because obviously he wanted the team to compete as much as possible and do really well. So, he would always be like, “Everyone needs to compete!”. I’m the kind of person that despite, you know, being able to create these kinds of podcast episodes and videos, I don’t like really being in front of a lot of people, to be honest, especially, when it’s like you fighting someone and there’s half a thousand people watching you. Okay? So, he would ask us to do this and quite often I would chicken out of entering the competition. I would wuss out. I would get cold feet. So, I would get too nervous. It would… the thought of standing in front of all these people and fighting someone else and potentially losing in front of all these people would give me cold feet. It would make me nervous. But imagine, okay, I did end to this competition. You could also use this expression if the time came to get on the mat and fight, so, they’ve said “Pete and…”, you know, the other guy “…Tim! It’s your turn to fight. Come out on the mat!”. If I ran away, if I didn’t show up, if I chickened out, if I wussed out, I’d gotten cold feet. I had become too timid and lost my nerve. Okay?
So, I hope you understand the expression, guys, ‘to get cold feet’ or ‘to have cold feet’. It is just to lose nerve, to lose confidence, and not do something. To bail on something. And then, if you want to kind of belittle the person a little bit and make it a little bit more sort of like you’re judging the person and making fun of them, you can say ‘to wuss out’, ‘to chicken out’, and then, just in general you can say ‘to bail on something’, which is just to leave something, to avoid something.
So, hopefully, those are some good phrasal verbs you can use when talking to your friends.
So, as usual, let’s go through a listen and repeat exercise, guys. This is your chance to practice your pronunciation. So, just listen then repeat after me, guys. Whether you want an Australian accent, whether you just want a prefect an American accent, a British accent, or just work on whatever accent you have, just try and say these words after me. Okay? Let’s go.
To get cold
To get cold feet x 5
A lot of stop consonants in their sentence, guys, when we’re talking about connected speech. A lot of stop consonants.
So, we’ll do this now using the conditional, guys. So, we’ll say “I would never get cold feet”. We’ll conjugate through that. And I’m going to contract a ‘would’ on to the respective pronouns for each sentence, right? So, instead of saying, ‘I would’, I’ll say ‘I’d’. Okay? So, listen and repeat after me.
I’d never get cold feet
You’d never get cold feet
She’d never get cold feet
He’d never get cold feet
We’d never get cold feet
They’d never get cold feet
It’d never get cold feet
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Anyway, before we finish up, I want to talk about fairy penguins or little penguins. Okay? So, today, we had at the very start of this episode a scene where David Attenborough was at Phillip Island talking about the smallest penguin in the world, the little penguins.
Now these guys weigh only about a kilogram and they only stand about 30 centimeters tall. They’re incredibly small and they are the world’s smallest penguins.
You can find these little penguins in southern Australia and in New Zealand in scattered colonies along the coastlines of these countries. And in Australia, you’ll find them all the way from out west in the city of Perth all the way east to Sydney, and then in the south, you’ll find them around Melbourne and in Tasmania. Okay?
So, if you come to Melbourne, though, they’re very easy to see, and you will see them at Phillip Island at night. This is probably the best place to go if you want to see them coming out of water and walking up the beach to their burrows. You can go to the Penguin Parade at Phillip Island and you can also see them at the St Kilda pier in Melbourne.
There are estimated to be about a million penguins left, these small penguins, little penguins, 32,000 of which live at Phillip Island. So, that’s pretty crazy. I guess, that’s only about 3.2%.
How do you tell the difference between a male and a female? That’s a good question. Well, you can’t ask them. So, you have to look at beaks. The adult females have a thin beak, much thinner than males, and the males have a distinct hook on the end of their beaks.
What do they eat? Every day, little Penguins have to go into the water, into the ocean, into the sea, and they eat up to 25% of their body weight, which is about 250 grams. And they’re eating fish like Barracouta, Anchovies, Red Cod, Pilchards, and even cephalopods like squid.
They can swim about two to four kilometres an hour, and for reference, humans can swim about six kilometres an hour.
Little penguins live in holes in the ground and we call these holes ‘burrows’, and this is a place where they can rest, they can nest, they can moult, and they can obviously get protection too from things like predators and extreme weather in Australia. Like, quite often it gets to about 40 degrees in summer and the best way to avoid that is going underground.
So, depending on the season, they can spend anywhere between 1 and 30 days at sea. That blows my mind. Imagine swimming around for a month. So, while breeding they return regularly to incubate the eggs and feed their chicks. So, that would be during the summer season. But during the winter season, they spend most of their time out to sea hunting for fish and squid for food.
These penguins don’t mate for life and if the breeding success of a couple of penguins is really low, they might look for new mates.
Little penguins lay two eggs similar in size to a chicken’s and both parents take turns incubating these eggs, which takes about 35 days.
Both parents then feed the chicks by regurgitating fish and squid caught at sea, and the chicks leave their parents and head out to sea for the first time at 7-11 weeks of age.
Their parents don’t teach them anything. They don’t learn how to swim. They don’t learn how to catch food. They don’t learn when they have the nest. It’s all based on instinct.
Penguins spend about 80 percent of their lives in the ocean. So, what’s that? One out of every five days on average they get out of the water. And on average, every single day they swim between 15 and 50 kilometres.
They’ve been recorded diving as deep as 72 metres. However, an average dive is between about 5-20 metres when they’re hunting prey.
Little penguins also have some really cool adaptations. Like all penguins, they have modified wings, which are called ‘flippers’, and the only flying they do is through the water.
They have a gland to spread oil on their feathers when they’re preening in order to keep the outer feathers waterproof so they don’t get soaked, they don’t get drenched and then get cold.
They have a streamlined shape, waterproof feathers on the outside of their body, a layer of down next to the skin to trap air and keep them warm under those waterproof feathers, and they also have a salt gland above their eyes, which helps them filter salt from seawater so they get access to freshwater.
Anyway, guys, that is the episode for today. I hope that you think little penguins are as bad-arse as I think they are.
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AE 448 – Interview: A Step by Step Guide to Moving to Australia to Study English with Lorena Yeves
G’day, guys. Welcome to this episode of Aussie English. Man, do I have a killer episode for you guys today!
So, I don’t know if you’ve seen it in the previous episode, but I’ve chatted to Lorena from Go Study Australia in a previous interview, and this episode was a 338. So, make sure that you go back and check that out if you would like to hear more from Lorena after this interview.
But today, I’ve got her, she’s from Go Study Australia, which is a company that helps English students, students that have come to Australia to learn English. This company helps them find jobs, find accommodation, find really decent schools, even get flights from some countries here at a discount. So, they’re free service, guys. I really recommend Go Study Australia if you guys need any kind of advice or help, whether you’re already in Australia learn English or you’re thinking about coming here.
So, Go Study Australia, definitely recommend checking them out.
Anyway, as it’s probably obvious, today I chat with Lorena about, effectively, a step by step guide to moving to Australia to study English. So, I set this up by saying, you know, imagine I am a foreign English learner from, say, Spain. What do I need to do? What is the step by step process that I need to go through in order to get to Australia, in order to get established in Australia, to find somewhere to live, to find a school, to get a job, to get food, to find friends, to socialise?
So, anyway, it is a great interview. Massive thanks to Lorena for spending about an hour chatting to me on Skype. I really appreciated her time, and I know that you guys are going to get a lot out of this.
So, without any further ado, guys, here is Lorena from Go Study Australia.
G’day guys. Welcome to this episode of Aussie English I have Lorena back again. Hopefully you saw the first episode with Lorena and if you haven’t, it’s episode 338 and there’s also a video on YouTube called How to study English in Australia… Go study in Australia. So Lorena Welcome back. How are you going?
Good, thank you.
Let’s start up! what is Go Study Australia? And give us a bit of your back story again. How did you end up living in Australia, working for this awesome company that’s helping people with their studying of English in Australia?
Yea sure! So I’ve been working for Go Study for five years. I started in Madrid and we… When I say “we” I mean my partner and I got offered this opportunity to come to Australia two and a half years ago and to come to the Melbourne office. So I started in Madrid. What we did there was help and guide students through their journey coming towards Australia and here in Melbourne what we do is more of reception. So Go Study Australia is an agency, or student organisation, that does… That gives help to students and working holiday visa makers come to Australia. We primarily help in the sector of studying. So English courses or vocational training or bachelor degrees. And the other part of our role or job is to guide students who are in Australia. We do a lot of events, activities, sort of give them support while they are here in Melbourne. We also have offices in Sydney and in Perth and in Brisbane. So I sort of give the all round support while they’re here in Australia.
And so I guess… How do people find you? First off for you to just get that out of the way… Is it a a cheeky Google search or can I come and see you at your office?
So our doors are always open. They can obviously write to us through our website or through our social media. If they Google Go Study Australia They’ll definitely find us… In the offices that we have here in Australia we always have our doors open so students can just come in and we have a lot of walk-ins with people that just need a little bit of help either finding a job or finding the right course for them or even just a little bit of help in terms of finding their way around Australia. So they can always just come to our office whenever they want.
Brilliant! And is this just students or… I guess people in Australia from any other countries? it doesn’t matter where or are they from certain countries that you guys cater for specifically?
So our main “catering” let’s say is just for European… European countries and Latin American countries. We recently opened offices in Bogota and Medellin, in Colombia. So hopefully we’ll all start catering to that to that area as well.
I mean that’s a huge market. There’s a lot of Columbians going to Australia!
Especially in Melbourne. So hopefully we’ll do a good job of giving them a little bit of support. But we don’t… I mean anyone can really just come in. Although our experiences, just in terms of visas, are experience is more towards Latin America and Europe. Other countries have variations. The visas are a little bit different so we’re not . .. Might not be the best agency for them.
So, if we just imagine me now being someone who’s living in Spain, Italy, France, or South America and I’m really really keen to learn English abroad, Why would you suggest Australia?
so Australia has a lot of good things compared to other English speaking countries. One of the best things is the work opportunities. Other English speaking countries don’t have as many opportunities in terms of jobs. So for example student visas for U.S. don’t come with working rights . So that’s where you go, you study but you can’t work. Canada has… I’m not really sure but there’s a limit, so there’s… I think up to the first six months you can’t work and Astralia is one of the only countries that lets students actually be able to work part time while they’re doing their studies. Another great thing about Australia obviously is that because it’s so far away from everything else there’s not a lot of people from your own nationality…
For now, for now right?
And that’s good because when you’re looking for a school or a place to learn English you don’t want to find yourself in a situation where you’re surrounded by your own nationality and your own language. That’s the only way that you can really make forward with language.
So what would be the next step? So imagine that I am in Spain. I’ve decided, you know what, I want to learn English overseas, I want to come to Australia. What is the next step for me to then do, with regards to making that dream come true or happen?
So there’s various ways that people can come to Australia. The one that is the most use is the student visa. So we are… In order to come to Australia with a student visa, the first thing obviously that you have to take into consideration is grabbing a course. So that’s where any of our offices offshore/onshore will be able to give a little bit of insight to the student depending on what you want to study: English vocational courses, higher education. Once you’ve chosen the course the next steps are doing a little bit of paper work and which we’ll obviously lend a hand and to do the actual visa. Once the visa is granted then the student can come into Australia. So the first… That’s sort of the most used visa, which will be the student visa
And so obviously you can do this all on your own. , You can get online you can find the school, you can coordinate with them. Then you can go and organise your visa, but you guys kind of are the shortcut if you want to make life easier for yourself. They can get in touch with companies like Go study Australia in order to sort of get a little bit of hand-holding so that they don’t have to do it all on their own.
Exactly yeah. In terms of pricing all of the courses will cost exactly the same whether you do it by yourself or if you do it through us. That’s a misconception. A lot of times people think “oh if I do it with an agency that means that I’ll be charged something.” No, actually we don’t charge anything to a student. Whether you do it by yourself and you do it everything through directly to the school or through the agency you will everything will be the same fee.
So you’re paying a set fee to the school and then you guys, as Go Study Australia, any money you receive isn’t from the students themselves but from the schools or from other organizations, right?
Exactly. So everything will be exactly the same… Sorry…
No no no, you’re good.
Can you hear the student come in?
A little bit, a little bit, but it’s fine it doesn’t matter. I can hear you clearly.
So, in terms of… In terms of pricing everything is exactly the same with the added value, obviously, that when you go with an organisation like Go Study, you obviously get the added bonus… The school… Usually when you do things directly with the school, the school obviously help you with the paperwork of the enrolment in the school, but they won’t be able to give you any support with the visa. So that’s where a lot of people actually find themselves in a little bit of a pickle. They’ll go directly to school, do everything because they think that it’s going to be cheaper , do everything through the school, and the moment comes when they go in to their immigration stage, try to do the visa and they get a little bit stuck. So it’s always better rate to have that added support from an agency. Not only for the visa but also throughout the entire journey, so you will assure yourself of obviously getting support throughout the entire time, not just for the visa, but to the entire time that you’re in Australia.
Brilliant! Alright, so where were we? Alright, so there’s obviously no excuse not to be using an agency like Go study Australia because it’s free. And so what happens if if someone comes to you for help and they don’t actually end up getting through the process of getting a school and everything, is that still free or?
So yeah. All of our services are free. We’re never going to charge students. So legally speaking we are only able to lend a hand… A tool in terms of visa to students that come through . .. That do the schooling through us . When students have done the entire visa process or, another visa process, but the school process by themselves, and we’ve had the situation right. So somebody goes to school, does everything by themselves, and then comes to the office… More than likely we will be able to obviously lend a hand. We won’t be able to be as involved in the actual visa process as we would to one of our students, but we would be able to sort of push them in the right direction. In terms of all of the other services, our parties, our seminars, our information sessions: All of that is open to anyone whether they are students or not.
So that they can use that as a learning experience, whether or not though they’re actually going to use those. Brilliant, brilliant! And so what would be the next step then? you’re a young man living in Spain, you’ve decided you want to come to Australia, you’ve gone through Go Study, you’ve found an English school, I take it. How do you guys pair up someone with the right English school, and is there any advice there for how to find an English school that suits you or is any school okay?
So the short answer is No – not all schools are okay. So there’s a there’s a lot of different things that one needs to take into account. The first thing, obviously, is we try to pair the student with the right school, in terms of quality and in terms of price, and so different schools will have different pricing. There’s a certain line of quality that Go Study Australia does not go under so there’s… We try to work with schools that have passed our quality standard – Our seal, Let’s say. there’s a… Obviously in terms of… That’s why you ask an agency to guide you through the process. Because we have the experience of letting you know which are the schools that actually are vouched for and which not. The other thing that we do, apart from the quality, is obviously matching what the student is willing to pay for the experience with which the pricing of the school. So the first thing that we do is… So this would happen once we’re trying to find the correct schools for the student. We’ll ask, obviously, what kind of experience they want to do what their goal is in Australia. What are they looking for in the end. So . .. Oh, and how much time they want to be here for. Let’s say that they want to be for six months and study English, then we’ll offer… Usually what we do is we offer three or four different schools, depending on what they have been telling us that they’re looking for, and try to match the student with the school. There’s a lot of schools in Australia, so we’ll never offer you all of the schools, just because otherwise we’ll, you know… We’ll make the student go crazy, so we will try to find two or three schools that might match and go from there.
And so what’s the price range usually? What are the options? What is the lowest sort of threshold, and what does it offer versus the highest part of that threshold, as well?
So in terms of English, more or less the price that we’re talking about is between $200 and $270 per week. For $200 per week, usually are schools that are all for night classes and are usually less populated, let’s say. $250, $270 are usually morning classes. Again it depends; Usually schools also offer a lot of different promotions. So at a certain point a school may cost usually $270 but they’re doing a promotion in which if you buy 10 weeks you’ll get two for free. So we also tried to work around those promotions to make sure that students can also a good value out of what they’re… What they’re looking for.
And what do these schools usually offer in terms of classes and hours? If someone wants to study in Australia they sign up with the school, is that, you know, eight hours a day every single day? is it 1 hour a day every single day? What are the expectations that the students should have with regards to studying English?
So student visas for international students will require the student to actually study 20 hours per week, minimum. And they will have to attend 80 percent of the school or the classes, otherwise they’ll be reported to immigration. So their stay in Australia is based exclusively on their compliance with the laws of their school, right? So usually schools will be between 20 and 25 hours per week, the minimum obviously being the 20 hours per week that they have to attend. It’ll be between four and five hours per hour per day. And they will, again, they will have to attend the 80 percent of the classes. There’s differing kinds of courses. So the most general course will be General English. It will touch a little bit of everything. A little bit of, you know, pronunciation, a little bit of speaking, of writing. Usually general English courses are better viewed for students that don’t have a lot of a level of English. And then you go in to more profound courses like IELTs preparation or Cambridge preparation, which is… Prepares the students to actually take the official exam. Those courses usually are a little bit more intense, and will give a little bit more work to the student.
And so what is there a… Is there a minimum level of English that you you must have in order to be that young man in Spain that leaves Spain and comes to Australia and gets into an Australian school, or get a visa? Do you need a certain level to do that?
Not for English. If you want to study vocational training or higher education you will have to have a previous level of English just because, obviously, there are more skilled courses and you will require to at least understand what’s going on in the class. Otherwise for English courses you don’t require any level of English , any previous level of English. We have students that come with very basic, basic elementary level of English. Those students will more likely go into courses like general English. More experienced, or people that have a little bit more higher level will try to go into more specific English courses.
Alright, so you’ve done that. You’ve organised which school you’re going to go to. I don’t know whether or not to touch on getting airfares for Australia. Is there any advice that you would have regarding how to get to Australia and how to save money doing so?
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Well, from Spain and Italy, we both have an agreement. So in Spain, I think it’s with Singapore Airlines and with Emirates, the students get a little discount from being our students, and if they go directly to the airline they’ll be able to get to, for example, Singapore Airlines will give the students the ability to, if they fly from Spain to Australia, they’ll have instead of 30 kilos of luggage they’ll be able to have 40. So it’s a little bit… They’ll have a little bit of extra room to bring personal stuff. Emirates will give them a little student discount. In terms of tips to get… I mean, there’s no real formula to get a cheap deal to come to Australia, it’s very far away. So usually prices are very standard and doesn’t really vary too much.
But it’s worth checking with you guys, just in case you know, that you have the option of either getting bonuses or more space to take stuff on the plane or to save a little bit of money ?
Oh brilliant, alright. Okay so you’ve got your flight. You get to Australia. You jump off the plane. What do you do then? Where do you live? And what are the options? And should you have organised that before getting on the plane, or is it okay to wing it and just get off the plane and you’ll be sweet?
So I think both of the options are okay. A lot of students prefer organising the first month of accommodation from Europe. The options usually are a little bit more expensive than if you just come into Australia and look for other options. Usually accommodation from Europe will cost… Will include obviously a family . .. Accommodation . .. The options are either family living within family, so you’ll . .. You’ll sleep with or live with the family and it’s included lunch, breakfast and dinner. The other option is the possibility of living in a student accommodation. But usually what we do recommend students is that they get a hostel for the first 10 days when they arrive here. It’s the cheapest option honestly. Come here and then once they’re here find a better… There’s heaps and heaps of pages – facebook pages, Gumtree. There’s a lot of places where you can actually then find better deals.
Is it a really good way to socialise first, too? To get to a hostel and meet a few other foreigners and other people travelling around and at least, sort of, hit the ground running with your social life and make some friends, right?
So I mean there’s pros and cons and everything right? Like everything in life. But if you get accommodation from Europe and you already organise the first month it’s going to be a little bit easier for you to, obviously, come you’re a little bit more relaxed. You have to think about having to find anything else.
And you got time to look, right?
Exactly. On the contrary it’s a little bit more expensive than if you just come and find a hostel. My recommendation usually is just come here for the first 10 days get a hostel. Meet a lot of new people at the hostel. Socialize. Start looking around… Once you arrive start looking with your… Especially in the school you’ll meet a lot of people and be able to find a better accommodation.
And I guess you would suggest don’t move in with people from your country . Like try and avoid organising a share house or something with other Spanish speakers or Italian speakers.
Yeah we see it a lot with people that want to travel together. Actually we get people that want to do the experience together. Two or three friends book the course, book everything together. We usually push them to go to different schools but sometimes they’ll want to go to the same school and that’s fine. Most of the schools won’t put them in the same class anyway. They try to divide nationalities so it is likely that even if they do come together that they will end up in the same class. But if they do all come together, what we do recommend is that at least they try to live separately. That way their experience will be more immersive. So it’s not the same as coming and living in a house full of people that you need to speak English with, otherwise you can communicate then being in a house with your mates from Spain and speaking in Spanish all day.
Well, not even that too. There is the language aspect of but then there’s the social aspect; If you’ve already got a friend or two friends here, you are a lot less likely to go out and try and meet people, and feel about pressure. No good. So what would hostel’s usually set you back, money-wise, per night? Do you have any figures off the top of your head?
I think a more or less we’re talking about maybe 30 40 dollars per night. So it really depends. There are some cheaper options if you share with eight people instead of with three or four. There’s various options, but usually it’s around to between 20 and 40 dollars per night.
And what’s it like renting in Melbourne? so you’ve you’ve come you’ve stayed in a hostel or you stay with a family for a short period of time. What would the next step be then for trying to find a house? What would you suggest people do and should they look for things like a shared house or should they try and get a house of their own? You know, on the on the bond. Get the bond paid and do that. Or I guess… what would you suggest?
Yeah. So when students arrive what we usually recommend is that they go into all of the Facebook pages on which people are renting a room. It depends on how much the student wants… How about how much they want to spend. Usually in a room if you share a room with someone else obviously will be cheaper than if you have your own room.
The answer is usually if you can if you can list them off the top of your head roughly…
In Melbourne you’re looking around between 150 and 200 dollars for a shared room. 200 250 for your own room. Again it depends. We have students that get really sweet deals and get their own room for 170. Get students that maybe you want to be more centralised than the CBD and pay a little bit more for your own room. It’s also a lot of luck. What we do recommend though is that unless you’re a going to be in Australia for a long time, and by a long time I mean a year and a half/two years, not going into getting an actual lease of the your own. It’s always there… There’s plenty of places that you can sub rent the room and it’s easier, also, to leave those places rather than having your own lease and having to have the hassle of having to find someone else to pick up your lease where you left it.
And they’re a lot less likely to give you a lease to a place of it’s only six months. They’re going to want the year, two years on that sort of thing. Okay, so for people who have kept up to now, schools are going to be between what? two or three hundred dollars a week, roughly? and then rent for a house might be slightly less than that. So you’re probably looking at between what? Maybe 450 to six hundred dollars for your weekly expenses with regards to what a school’s going to cost and rents going to cost. Do you have any quick advice with regards to groceries and food? How to find food here in Australia that’s affordable and the price that you’d look out for that as well?
So we always talk about when… Actually when students arrive we give them a little welcome package in which we give them a little bit of tips of when to do their shopping and where to find cheap stuff. In terms of groceries here, I can speak for Melbourne. That’s my experience. The cheapest supermarket is ALDI which any Spanish person will actually recognise because there are ALDIs in Spain as well. But other than that, usually Coles is pretty, relatively cheap. We do push students to also go to actually local markets like the Queen Victoria Market or the south market. It’s in terms of, you know, fruit and veggies it’s a cheaper option. We also try to tell them to stay within things that are in a season and so that’s something that sometimes we forget living in such a globalized world where we have everything at our hand. But if you usually stay in season in autumn you buy your mushrooms and in summer you buy your mangoes. Usually your you’ll stay within a good… a good budget.
And the food’s probably going to be better quality right? it hasn’t been frozen or traded or imported from a long way away. So what would people be looking at spending for groceries on a weekly kind of budget? Maybe one to two hundred dollars?
Yeah I would say maybe a hundred, a hundred and fifty dollars per hour per week. It also really depends how much how much food you eat.
And what your standards are, right?
Exactly. So I’m very tiny and I don’t need a lot so probably my intake is not as much and my partner who is like double my size. But yeah we’re talking about maybe a hundred hundred and fifty dollars per week in groceries. It also depends on the city that you’re in.
So you’re between maybe six hundred and seven hundred fifty bucks now a week. How can we offset that by finding a job, okay? So you’ve obviously had to pay for your school ahead of time and then you get . .. I guess to get the visa you kind of have to show that you have a certain amount of money to pay for things like accommodation and support yourself. What job prospects are there for people who are studying? And what are they allowed to do in terms of hours per week? and what are they likely to be paid?
So let me just jump back at a comment you made. So not all of the countries that come to Australia with the student they will need to show funds so. Countries like Spain, Italy, France – they will not have to show funds when they ask for the visa. In terms of the government, they can always ask whatever they want to, obviously. So they can still have the chance that they do ask. But usually in general terms that’s not something that you have to show. So you can have your little savings and have paid the school, and not necessarily have to show any funds to the government. Countries like Colombia will need… Or Brazil, they will need to show a little bit more stability.
And what amount of money would they need to accrue for those Columbian Brazilian listeners? How much would be a minimum amount of money to have saved up?
So usually we’re talking about 1600 dollars per every month that you want to be in Australia.
So more or less is what we are… Is what we would recommend.
So that’s why it really does depend on how long you want to stay. It’s not just that there’s a minimum that you need to arrive with, it’s your stay. Your length of time.
Exactly. And from that, once that come here we’ll give them all of the options are towords working. So we do a lot of job sessions. So you do jump sessions and Spanish and Italian and French, and we help all students with all of the processes and all of the steps that they need to take towards starting to find a job. So we’ll help them upon arrival also to talk about how to get the TFN and how to start their job-world in Australia.
And what is the TFN, quickly?
Yes, the TFN is the tax file number. it’s what all students or all people in Australia will need in order to be able to work legally in Australia. Once we apply for the tax file number then we can start legally working and looking for jobs. Our job will generally, depending obviously on what the kind of job and how many hours and everything but usually a student will be able to sustain him or herself in Australia while working their 20 allowed hours per week. So even if they did have… They paid out of the school from offshore. They came and they paid all of the fees and accommodation and everything. They’ll be able to pay for their everyday expenses with their job that they acquire here in Australia.
What kind of job opportunities are there and what is the amount of money they’re likely to be paid per hour?
So usually it obviously depends on a lot of factors but the majority of the students end up working in hospitality. That’s where the most jobs are available. Not because that’s the sector where there’s more jobs but because it’s a sector that is the most flexible with the student visa. So we have to remember that the student visa will allow the student to work only 20 hours per week while school is in session. They will actually be able to work full time when school is not in session. So when school is in session they’ll have their five hours per day that they’re in school or in their English course and then they’ll have the rest of the day to be able to work. Obviously that gives them roughly 20 hours per week to work. Casual working which is what students will likely get pays between 20 and 23 dollars per hour. So that should be able to cover the cost of accommodation, groceries and a little bit of… It depends on your way of life I think.
As a quick side note I was working at a restaurant in Melbourne called Portillo Rosseau which was a Spanish restaurant and I was just a waiter while I was studying and it was twenty five dollars an hour. Casual, flexible hours. So it is the kind of thing where you will get… you will get paid very well and I guess too… Should you make sure that you are doing it legally on the books as well? If you want to get paid the proper wage and not be taken advantage of?
Yeah obviously we always warn students there’s always going to be establishments that try to take advantage of the student. Generally speaking it’s pretty regulated so I wouldn’t… Like anything in the world, right, you always have to be wary about things that are legal or they take you out of the legality but generally speaking it’s pretty, pretty regulated. We also put students in contact with Fair Work in case they do have this problem of not getting paid or people that have been paid less than what they were supposed to. We have some success stories of people that, you know, didn’t know that they were being paid less than what they were supposed to, then finding out, going to Fair Work and actually going to court and winning. So Australia… That’s also one of the things that I love about Australia – is that it’s very regulated and that you will have the support of the government when it comes to the illegality that of establishments that do try to take advantage.
Well that’s what I’ve experienced a bit too. I mean I’ve in the past worked for establishments where they pay you what we get what we call “cash in hand”, where it’s off the books. It’s not legal. They give you the money but they give you… They require a certain amount of time. And they’ll generally pay you less than they would if you are on the books because they’re not getting taxed. So you do end up in that sort of situation it happens and maybe that’s your only option but I would say if you get… If you’re getting paid less than seventeen dollars an hour and they’re asking you to work more hours than say you’re legally allowed to be, I would be getting out of that situation and trying to find something better. And obviously if I can come and talk to you at Go Study to get advice and they can go to Fair Work too because I think the average Australian, too, won’t take too kindly to hearing about foreign people coming here and being taken advantage of. It pisses me off a lot.
That’ s a foreign person. if you don’t feel like it’s okay… if you feel uncomfortable about something that’s happening at work or even at the English schools, I take it, don’t just let it happen because of the language barrier or it’s a foreign country. Do definitely report it to someone and…
For sure, yeah! We always push people to actually report everything in the two instances. so if something is wrong at school we always push students to actually come and talk to us. That’s why we’re here: We’re here to help, we’re here to be able to support you, and if they are thinking that they’re being taken advantage of at work a lot of people have this worry “Oh! I’ve been working for two weeks. Cash in hand. I don’t like it. I think this is not what I’m supposed to do but I don’t want to report it because I am the one them working cash in hand!” Actually they are covered. Their work will not tell them that they’re the wrong ones, but the person that is in the wrong is the establishment that is paying cash in hand. So in that sense people who are… Think that they’re in… That they’re scared of reporting because they are working cash in hand, they shouldn’t because The wrongdoing is on the side of the establishment.
Exactly! If the government is going after anyone it’s not going to be you it’s the company. Alright, and so you’ve come to Australia, you’ve got the schools sorted, you’ve gotten housing sorted, you’ve got a job now. I guess, do you have anything to say with regards to the resume and how to get the job? Should you go to these places and hand them the resume yourself or can you do it online? What what sort of advice would you have?
We always tell students that 80 percent of the jobs that are available are not advertised online. So we always push students to actually go with their CVs, go around and give them personally. We are… In our job sessions that we do with our students, we help them with the creation of the CVs and adapting the CVs from their European version or their home country version to the Australian version. It’s a little bit different – it varies from country to country. But we try to adapt it obviously to Australian standards.
What do employers here usually want to see on the resume? Because I guess one key thing is, for me at least, working and handing out resumes. Keep it short and sweet, right? People don’t want to a novel. They don’t want you to hand them something like this and be like “I’m qualified!”.
So we always tell them to keep it short, keep it one page. And a lot of other countries you put a picture but in Australia you usually don’t include a picture.
Especially if you’ve walked in the yourself, obviously.
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Especially, yes. And another big thing is making sure that the jobs that you’re listing are things that will make sense with the job. So one of the most common things that, as international students we hear, when people grab our resumes, because we’re used to from Spain or Italy, to put it on is “You are all overqualified for this job!” So we tend to write everything that we’ve done and everything that we studied, so I’ll say “I have a masters degree in this and a bachelor degree in that and I worked in United Nations,” and then when they actually look at your CV and you’re applying for a waitress position they’ll say “Okay, well you’re overqualified. Why is someone that worked at the UN want to work in ah as a waitress?” So we always make sure that the student puts only the work that is related to the position that they’re asking for.
And that’s a really good point because that happens with us as well – with Australians here. I have to be careful when I go… when I went for jobs like that not to oversell myself because if they see that you’ve got you know a master’s degree and a bachelor’s degree and you’re wanting to do you know waiting they’re going to be like this guy’s going to get bored he’s going to probably want a better job that pays more, so he is not going to stay here. He is going to leave a few months after starting. And so yeah, only put down the work that’s relevant to that job. Great, and so what are the opportunities though, too? Are you likely to get, you know, once you’ve finished the English school are there places that you can get jobs where you could lead to permanent residency or living in Australia too? Are there jobs that people should try and aim for if that’s their goal as opposed to just working in a cafe or?
So there’s many different possibilities right. A lot of people will come to Australia love and want to stay further the best way obviously to stay further let’s say you haven’t been studying for six months. It’s going into vocational training. So studying something that will increase your CV, will increase your knowledge, will still be able to give you a little bit more time to be in Australia and find a more qualified job. If the goal is to migrate to Australia that is a conversation that should be done with a migration agent. There’s obviously certain jobs or certain fields in which it is more likely to get a sponsor or there are jobs that are more likely to lead to a longer stay in Australia. But again that is something that needs to be discussed with a migration agent.
And that’s going to depend on you, right? That’s going to be a person-by-person kind of thing.
And not only that it also depends on a lot of luck. So we have a lot of students that might come here for six months do an interview for a part time job in a let’s say architects studio and have the luck that they were trying to sponsor or that they really love the way you work or for whatever reason you land a sponsorship within six months of being here. and I have students that’ve been here for four years studying and I have never landed anything more permanent. So really also depends on how you move yourself around.
I think a good example of that for me was having a friend who I worked with at the restaurant at Portillo Rosso who was Chilean and she’d come to Australia with her boyfriend who was studying at university on a partner visa, but she ended up becoming a shared manager of this restaurant. And then as a result of that… So she’d worked as a waitress and then got sort of promoted to managing and through managing they could sponsor her then to permanently live in Australia, potentially at least for the next four years, and so that’s something to think about too. When you get one of these jobs in a cafe you may still be able to climb the ladder and get an important role that they could then sponsor you for to keep you’re in Australia.
Now one of the biggest tips that can be given to the student who comes to Australia maybe likes or wants to stay is to remember that they can move diagonally within their sector so that even if they did study microbiology in their home country maybe they come here and they start working in the restaurant. If their goal is to be able to stay here maybe they will have to sort of explore the possibility of you know going towards restaurant manager or move diagonally towards a different goal than what they thought that they wanted to do.
And so what have you found with students who have come to Australia and they’ve done these English courses, they’ve got their English to a really good level, they’ve got a decent job like this. What tends to be the outcomes after that. Do they end up, you know, getting hired getting PR here? migrating to Australia or travelling Australia or do they end up leaving Australia? What tends to be the patterns of what happens?
So it really actually is interesting because it really depends on, and this is very broadly speaking, but it depends a lot on nationalities. So different nationalities would look for different outcomes for them in Australia. So generally speaking for example the Spanish student will look to have an experience here in Australia. Will be here for generally a year or two years and then they’ll go back home. Italians, on the contrary, will come here and will try to stay here forever and ever. So it really depends on where they come from or what their goals are. Generally speaking let’s say the lifespan of a student will start with English, go into vocational training, and once they’ve done vocational training are sort of splits in two. so one side of the population , or let’s say of the students, who will try to find either sponsorship or skill migration vias or partner visas or say without furthering their studies. The other the other part will try to do something like master’s degree and spend a little more time pursuing a career in furthering their knowledge.
So that’s a good segway too. You’ve come here, you’ve enrolled initially into an English course because you had zero english or you had you know a little bit of English. You’ve gotten into fluent and you can communicate. What are the options and what should you do once that first course finishes?
So once a first course, and let’s say that the first cours is the English course, the best way or the easiest way to be able to stay in Australia and further your career is like I said going in to VET courses. so VET courses are vocational training courses and those courses will be able to give a little bit extra push in what you’ve already studied. So usually are things like business and management or a leadership management courses business marketing and communications so it’s things that will give extra skills to the to the student. Those courses generally are let’s say are more specific and will give a little bit extra to the student but might not necessarily mean that are open PR opportunities.
So do you have to hunt for those yourself to some degree? it’s a little more on you to try and find certain jobs or opportunities with companies in order to try and get PR?
So in order to. If a student’s goal is to get PR again they need to sit down with the migration lawyer. They’ll be able to actually sit down, look at what you’ve done home, what you have been doing here, what your career looks like, and be able to guide you and say “okay look perfect you you’ve been an architect look there are looking for architects in rural Australia you’re up your best option is to go and try to work in Adelaide,” for example, “for 2 years.” And that will be able to give you a little bit more opportunities.
So is that something that you should have in mind when you get here a year early you just realise that it may not be that you just get to decide “I want to go to Melbourne I want to live in Melbourne I want to get PR and citizenship,” you need to be open to moving around Australia, doing different jobs, at least in the short term before those things are likely to happen.
Definitely! Definitely if the goal is to try to migrate permanently, obviously keep an open mind in being able to find your place wherever it’s needed, right. But The best thing that we can do… And students can come here and I’ll be more than happy to give them options in migration lawyers that we work with…
That was my next question – how do I get in touch with these people?
So usually we recommend i-Migration. They are our preferred partner but there are plenty of partners all around Australia that obviously cater to international students. If students go to i-Migration and say that they’ve come through Go Study of they’re learned from coming to the office or from this are from this interview, they’ll be able to get a little discount on the first on the first consultation. But I would definitely, definitely push students that if their goal is to move permanently to Australia they need to speak to a qualified migration agent.
Ah brilliant! And I guess, before we sort of finish up since you’ve given us so much good information here I want to get it out there but, what’s your experience been, and I guess reported experiences from other people in all the different cities in Australia? Are there places that you would recommend going or trying first or not going? How have you found that?
So again there are so many people in the world that it depends a lot on what you’re looking for, right. In terms of choosing your destination. I would definitely see what it is that the is. So for example if it is very important for student to be able to work to sustain themselves I would push them to come to Melbourne. Melbourne, for right now, is the best city to come to be able to actually work and sustain yourself while your studying. There isn’t a lot of competition per say with other international students so all of us students right now are working. If you’re looking to have an experience a little bit more towards what is sold to us from offshore of Beaches and surfing, I’d probably go to Queensland, not to Melbourne.
You going to be about an hour and a half away from any decent beach in Melbourne.
Exactly! So… But if they want to have sort of that experience of… Look, maybe the job is not as important but what I want is having a good surfing experience and having a great Australian, how we see it in TV, Let’s say, I would go up to Queensland. But from all the cities that I’ve been… Obviously I haven’t been in all of the cities of Australia but from my experience all of the students that come to Melbourne usually have the most complete experience in terms of their Australian experience.
So would you even just suggest start here and… You know, because you can move cities, I take it, if they want to move English schools to is that a possibility?
Yes a lot of schools actually have campuses in various cities. I would also probably recommend coming to Melbourne, starting your experience in Melbourne, maybe in summer, and then move towards… In winter move towards other destinations. You can definitely already plan your trip or your stay in Australia like that. A lot of students do. Three months in one city, three months in another. Experience both cities and have a little bit more of an overall experience.
And so are there any places you should stay away from? Not necessarily because they’re bad but because you will have fewer opportunities to get a decent school or to get work or to get accommodation?
Not necessarily. Smaller cities obviously will have less job opportunities. So for example, when we talk about a student that really really needs to be able to find a job quickly to be able to sustain themselves in Australia I’d probably wouldn’t recommend them to go to Gold Coast in winter. Gold Coast in winter, there won’t be a lot of opportunity. There’s not a lot of jobs. Gold Coast in summer? Yes! lots of approachable…
Lots of tourist lots of jobs!
A lot of stuff to do and probably be able to find a job. So there isn’t anything that you would be… That I would steer off. In any city you’d be able to find a decent school and decent opportunity.
I guess a good point to make there, a good anecdote, is my girlfriend came to Australia maybe two and a half years ago and she went straight to Townsville, which is an isolated small town. I think it’s like one or two hundred thousand people in northern Queensland, and she couldn’t find a job for a year, so she had enough money to support herself and she was studying. But yeah, she couldn’t find a decent job for a year. But the good thing was she did all this volunteer work. So for people who can’t find a job and if you’re seeing the job as a way of interacting with native speakers I’m sure that you’ll be able to find a plethora of volunteering opportunities if you want to work with animals or people or events that you will still enable you to practice your English. That was how she did it for the first year she… I think she was during school but then she was also just volunteering all the time and it really took her English up and then after that actually she got all these references from the volunteer places that helped her get a really good job. So there’s opportunities there. Awesome, no worries! Well Lorena from Go Study Australia. Thank you so much. How can people find out more about Go Study Australia and get in contact with you guys?
Yeah you can go to our Website: GoStudy.com.au . You can find us on Facebook, you can add me on my personal Facebook profile. And yeah I mean, from, if you’re offshore, if you’re in Italy France or Spain you can go to our offices there. If you’re here in Australia, in Melbourne Sydney, Perth or Brisbane you can stop by. Or if you need anything you can just contact us online.
Brilliant! And I guess that’s the biggest takeaway, guys; Don’t do this alone. Contact places like Go study Australia and get help. If you have questions… If they can’t help you they’re going to let you know but you’re not going to know unless you ask. So, awesome! Well thank you so much for your time.
No I thank you Pete!
My pleasure! We’ll have to do this again soon and I guess if you guys have any questions that we didn’t cover in today’s interview make sure to put them below wherever you’re watching this or listening to this and hopefully I can get there around here again in the future and ask her those questions so Cheers guys! Cya soon!
Alright, guys, so I hope you enjoy that interview. Remember that if you would like any kind of help or advice with regards to studying English in Australia, finding accommodation, finding a job, make sure that you contact Go Study Australia, guys. Okay?
And yeah, big thanks to Lorena. I’m going to try and get her again on the podcast and interview her about some other things with regards to coming to Australia and studying here. So, if you guys have any kinds of questions that you would like me to ask her specifically next time, make sure that you e-mail me them or comment them on this episode of the podcast. Just get in contact with me and let me know what more I can do to get you information from Go Study Australia or from Lorena.
Anyway, thanks for joining me today, guys. I really appreciate it. And I’ll see you soon. See ya.
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AE 447: 7 Reasons to Study English in Australia
G’day, guys. Welcome to this episode of Aussie English.
Today, I am chatting to my friend Lorena from Go Study Australia about why Australia is such a good destination for studying.
Whether it’s English, at university, some kind of course, Australia is a great destination to come.
Let’s have a look.
So if we just imagine me now being someone who’s living in Spain, Italy, France, or South America and I’m really really keen to learn English abroad, Why would you suggest Australia?
so Australia has a lot of good things compared to other English speaking countries. One of the best things is the work opportunities. Other English speaking countries don’t have as many opportunities in terms of jobs.
So for example student visas for U.S. don’t come with working rights . So that’s where you go, you study but you can’t work.
Canada has… I’m not really sure but there’s a limit, so there’s… I think up to the first six months you can’t work and Australia is one of the only countries that lets students actually be able to work part time while they’re doing their studies.
Another great thing about Australia obviously is that because it’s so far away from everything else there’s not a lot of people from your own nationality…
For now, for now right?
And that’s good because when you’re looking for a school or a place to learn English you don’t want to find yourself in a situation where you’re surrounded by your own nationality and your own language.
That’s the only way that you can really make forward with language.
Alright, guys. Well I hope enjoyed that little interview with Lorena from Go Study Australia if you are thinking about studying English in Australia or if you are already here doing it.
Those guys are a free service and they will help you with things like finding a job, finding an English school, finding somewhere to live, all of that sort of stuff.
So, check out Go Study Australia.
Before we finish up though, I want to go through several other reasons why Australia is such a bad arse country when it comes to studying as an overseas student.
So, check this out.
We have a strong economy in Australia. Some of you may know this as it is relatively expensive to live here, but the living is pretty good.
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And a strong economy means that there’re lots of jobs and that you’re going to get paid relatively well.
One little anecdote. When I was just a mere waiter whilst studying at university, I was a waiter and I was paid $25 Australian dollars an hour.
So, I think anywhere between $19 and $20 something, $24, $25 dollars an hour is going to be pretty good and you’re likely to find that kind of job if you do a bit of hunting.
Number two. Australia is politically stable.
So, what does this mean? It means that there aren’t going to be a lot of massive changes when it comes to being a foreign citizen and opportunities in Australia.
Australia’s government puts a lot of emphasis on educating foreign students.
This is a massive, massive, massive source of income for the Australian economy.
So, it is unlikely that many things are going to change overnight if you want to study in Australia.
Number three. We have an incredibly high level of education here.
The standards for education are really high. Whether it’s for schools, whether it’s for the teachers, and as well, for the students. You guys are going to get held to a high standard.
So, you can be sure that if you get a degree in Australia, if you finish a language course in Australia, it is going to be top notch.
Number four, and I read this online. I don’t know if it’s 100% true, but Australia has, apparently, an incredibly good telecommunication’s network and system.
So, you’re going to be able to use your phone, you’re going to be able to call overseas.
The prices aren’t too expensive. They’re not too crazy. And obviously, you’re going to get internet pretty much everywhere.
Though caveat, the internet speed somewhat sucks. Just be aware of that ok, guys?
There are also a wide range of courses available whether you’re studying IELTS, or IELTS exam preparation, whether you’re studying for the Cambridge exams and the different ones there, or if you’re wanting to do PTE, you can do all of those courses here at Australian English schools.
Another point worth mentioning here, guys, is that the Australian Government published a study, a little while back, but it’s still relevant, called Studying in Australia, which discussed the views of students, agents, and parents from at least 6 different countries regarding studying in Australia.
In comparison to other popular destinations for international students, quote, Australia’s student visa costs, tuition costs, living expenses and demonstrated minimal funds required to apply for a visa were lower or equal to all other destinations.
Australia also has a wealth of opportunities and experiences. So, if you’re interested in travel, if you’re interested in sight seeing, in art galleries, in culture, in food, all of these things will be at your finger tips when you come and study in Australia.
So, we have a wide range of climates and habitats. Everything from the hot, dry desert to the warm, humid forests of northern Queensland.
We have the Great Barrier Reef if you like tropical destinations at the beach.
We also have amazing picturesque beaches all along the coast of Australia.
You can go surfing, you can go bushwalking, you can hit the forest, the mountains, you can go snowboarding, skiing.
There is a lot when it comes to travel in Australia.
The last thing that I wanted to mention was the fact that Australians are a little bit sport crazy.
So, if you’re into your sports, whether you like playing sports, being a member of a club, training, or you just want to go to a match or a game on the weekends and check it out as a spectator, Australia is going to be the location for you guys to check out.
So, anyway guys, that is it. Those are all of the reasons I think, and I think many others would agree, Australia is one bad arse destination if you would like to study English or if you want to study at university, something that isn’t English, as well.
So, I hope you agree, guys, but I want to handball this back to you guys.
What do you think? Is Australia a really good destination for studying English? And have I forgotten any tips, any pros, any awesome aspects of studying Down Under?
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AE 446 – Expression: Bag Someone
G’day, you mob! How’s it going? And are welcome to this episode of The Aussie English Podcast. The number one podcast out there for anyone and everyone wanting to learn Australian English. So, if you’re after an Australian accent, if you want to understand our slang, or our accent in general, if you want to use expressions that we use, if you just want to have a better understanding of the Australian dialect of English, this is the podcast for you guys.
So, I hope you have been having an absolutely awesome week. I’ve just driven down from Canberra all the way down to Melbourne to see my folks and see my sister, her partner, and their kid as well, my little niece. So, it was a long drive. I came down yesterday, but I’m definitely glad to be here, and I did that because my girlfriend Kel has gone overseas for a few days. She’s gone to China for work. So, lucky Kel. She’s in Beijing. So, lucky her she’s seeing all the sights and sending me photos and I’m quite jealous that she is having such a good time. But yeah, drove down. It took about seven hours yesterday to get here. So, I think I left early in the morning, maybe about 9:00 o’clock, 9:30, and I got here by about 6 something PM, so a little after 6:00 pm in the evening.
So, it was pretty cruisy. Stopped a few times and got some food, but yeah just sort of enjoyed the drive and enjoyed my time to myself in the car listen to some audiobooks, listen to some podcasts, and just relax in general.
Anyway, so today’s expression is going to be related to the word ‘bag’. Right? So, to bag someone, to bag on someone, to bag someone out.
We’ll get to that soon, but I was sort of sitting there and I’m thinking, “How can I relate ‘bag’ to Australia? How can I connect these two things?”. And I couldn’t think of any movies or any other sort of tid bits, bits of information, facts, or anything. So, I thought instead I would tell you a little story about bags in Canberra that we sort of experienced when we moved there to kick the episode off, to begin the episode. We’ll kick it off with a little anecdote here, guys.
So, you can get plastic bags when you go to shopping centres here in Victoria. You go to shopping centres, you tend to get all your stuff, all your groceries, all the stuff you buy, they’ll chuck it, they’ll put it, in plastic shopping bags, you know? Those disposable one-use plastic shopping bags. And there’s a big argument about how that is bad for the environment, should we do it, should we be selling these bags, or should we be using them, ’cause quite often they’re free. And so, in Victoria you can do this. It’s sort of taken, it’s a given here that you’ll get your groceries in a bag.
Anyway, we moved to Canberra and one of the first things that we noticed was the fact that plastic bags aren’t provided. You can’t get single-use plastic bags in Canberra. They’re illegal. They’ve been outlawed since, I think, the first of November, 2011. So, nearly seven years now. I didn’t know this.
So, we moved there and quite a few times we would take all of our things to the checkout. So, the checkout chick would put all the stuff through and she wouldn’t put it in a bag, and we’d be left there. I remember the first time being like, “Ah… What?”.
And what you have to do in Canberra now is you actually have to pick up what are more durable plastic bags, then take them to the checkout, and then buy them, they’re 15 cents a piece, 15 cents each, and then she puts the stuff in your bag.
So, we had to go through that process. And that’s the same everywhere. You don’t automatically get these single-use shopping bags. So, they have to be, I think, thicker than 35 microns and they have to be durable so that they can be reused. So, now we have to try and remember every time we go to the shops if we don’t want to buy plastic bags, we’ve got to bring our own. We have to provide our own. But yeah, that was interesting and that was something I had to get used to once I moved there.
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I’m still thinking about when to bring in the paid access to transcripts for the podcast website, guys. I’m probably going to do that in the next week or two. I just have to get everything set up on the website. So, I’ll have to work that out.
Anyway guys, I will let you know when that happens. And I guess, that’s it for announcements. We’ll get into the joke, alright?
So, I got a joke for you guys here today. What do you call a lazy baby kangaroo? What do you call a lazy baby kangaroo? So, a joey. What do you call a lazy baby kangaroo? And the answer? ‘A pouch potato’. ‘A pouch potato’. Okay? I’ll explain this to you if you don’t already understand the pun there, guys, the play on words.
‘A couch potato’ in English, and this is used everywhere, is someone who sits on a couch and is constantly on the couch watching TV, playing PlayStation or Xbox, lounging around, being very lazy. They’re a couch potato, because they’re always on the couch, you know, and they’re like a potato. I don’t know why we use potato, that vegetable, but we use it to say this person is lazy. They’re a couch potato.
Baby kangaroos, obviously, live in the pouch of their mothers. The joeys for the first, I don’t know how many months, maybe three, four, five months of their life, they live inside their mother’s pouch, because they’re marsupials, the mothers have pouches that they raise their young in.
So, the play on words here is between the word ‘couch’ and ‘pouch’, right? So, ‘a couch potato’ is someone lazy and in this case, what do you call a lazy kangaroo, baby kangaroo? ‘A pouch potato’, because they’re lazy and they’re in the pouch.
Alright. So, I hope you get that joke, guys.
Today’s expression is ‘to bag someone’, ‘to bag someone out’, or ‘to bag on someone’. So, there’s a few variations of this expression. And this comes from M L. I don’t know your full name, but M L from YouTube, he came on there and asked me can I please explain the expression ‘to bag someone’, ‘to bag on someone’, ‘bag someone out’. Okay.
So, as usual guys, let’s go through the words in this expression. They tend to be pretty simple today. ‘To bag something’. Let’s start with that.
If you bag something. This can mean several different things. So, you can bag something as in to put something in a bag. So, for instance, in Canberra, I might go into a grocery store, pick up my groceries, the stuff I want to buy, I then pick up a bag that I have to buy at the checkout, and then at the checkout chick, the person that is checking out the food, will bag the food. They’ll put the food in the bag.
‘To bag’ can also mean to succeed at getting something or acquiring something, securing something. So, if, for example, you’re a hunter and you’re trying to kill something or catch something, you know, maybe you’re hunting deer or something like that in Australia or a large kangaroo, a buck kangaroo. If you catch that animal, you’ve bagged it, you’ve caught it.
So, we could use this also though for receiving something or getting something like an award. So, for example, in Australia we have the ARIAs and Aria stands for Annual Australian Recording Industry Association Music Awards. So, these are given out to Australian musicians. So, if you went to the ARIAs, you were nominated for three ARIAs, and you bagged them all, it means you succeeded in acquiring them, you got them, you received those three awards, you bagged them.
But ‘to bag’ today means to criticise someone, to tease someone, to insult someone, and this is an Australian and New Zealand informal piece of English. It’s an informal expression that’s used mainly in Australia or in New Zealand.
And so, for example, you might tease someone at school, you’re bagging them. You might be really nasty to the football team that is the opponent of your footy team. You’re bagging them. Okay?
And so, that’s the expression, guys. But there are two different variants, right? You can say ‘to bag someone out’ or ‘to bag on someone’. They mean exactly the same thing. So, if I bag you, I tease you. If I bag you out, I tease you. If I bag on you, I tease you. They all mean the same thing.
And you may hear from time to time, also in Australia, ‘to pay someone out’. ‘To bag someone out’ and ‘to pay someone out’. I’m not sure where these originate from, but they are phrasal verbs that you will hear and they mean to insult, to criticise, or to tease someone.
And this can be playful. So, could be like you’re joking around. It’s not really very nasty, but it can also be that you’re being incredibly harsh or horrible to someone.
One thing I wanted to mention here, guys, when we make a phrasal verb like ‘to bag on someone’, to, you could also say less formally, even more informally, ‘to hang shit on someone’. That’s a very, very informal way of saying ‘to bag someone’, to be teasing someone, to be nasty to someone, and it’s more informal because you’re using the word ‘shit’, okay? ‘To hang shit on someone’.
But I want to point out how we’re using the particle ‘on’ here. So, if you bag on someone, ‘on’ here is being used to show the subject that is receiving the action of the verb, okay? You’re bagging ‘on’ a person. So, it shows that that person is receiving the action of the verb ‘to bag’.
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So, some other examples here. ‘To walk out on someone’. So, ‘to walk out on someone’ is to abandon someone. So, ‘to walk out’, you’re exiting, but if you’re exiting ‘on’ a person, it’s your exiting and the person is the one who is receiving the action of the verb. So, ‘to walk out on someone’, ‘to abandon someone’. She walked out ‘on’ her husband. So, it’s her husband that it happened to.
‘To impact on someone’ is to affect someone. So, what you do impacts on everyone. So, if you’re really horrible, it impacts ‘on’ your entire family. Your family are the ones who receive that action.
And the last example is ‘to look down on someone’ and that is to regard or treat someone as inferior. So, if your boss thinks that you’re inferior to him, he looks down ‘on’ you. You’re the one receiving that action from that verb. He looks down ‘on’ you.
So, that’s why we used ‘to bag on someone’ in that case.
Unfortunately, with regards ‘to pay out’, there’s no real pattern here. It’s just a collocation. It’s just a phrase you’ll have to learn. ‘To bag someone out’, ‘to pay someone out’.
The reason I wanted to sort of break this down for you today, guys, is because this week I’m going to do a discount for the phrasal verb course that I have, The Effortless Phrasal Verb course. So, if you would like to learn to use phrasal verbs effortlessly like a native speaker without having to memorise a heap of lists, this is the course for you.
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Anyway guys, I want to talk about the origin of this expression, and then we’ll go through some examples. We’ll go through a listen and repeat exercise, and then we can finish up for the day.
Alright. So, there was one hypothesis that I found from a discussion online that was the following: Young boys at schools for the last hundred years or so, potentially thousands of years, have been pulling each other’s pants down as a form of humiliation. So, they often do this as like an initiation rite for other kids or it could be like a punishment for undesirable behaviour, or they could do it just to show dominance, and this was definitely the case when I was at school, and we used to refer to this as ‘dacking someone’, ‘to dack someone’, was to sort of sneak up behind them, pull their pants down, and laugh at them, because, you know, they would trip over or they just have their pants down and you can see their underwear. It would be something that was… wasn’t the nicest thing you could ever do to someone, but it definitely happened.
Anyway, it’s obviously a form of bullying. It’s a form of dominance and you’re depriving a victim, the person who’s been dacked, of his pants and you’re stripping him of his dignity and, symbolically, you’re ostracising him as unworthy, right, to associate with other kids.
So, in Britain apparently this is referred to as ‘debagging’ or ‘bagging’ someone, right, and ‘bags’ was a slang term for trousers, for pants. So, it was derived from an earlier expression used in Britain, ‘bum-bags’, because the pants that you wore were seen as like a bag for your bottom, for your arse, for your posterior, for your bum.
So, apparently, this was happening at Oxford. All the undergraduates used to dack each other, or bag each other, apparently, or debag each other, all throughout the 20th century.
So, this practice had obviously become incredibly common after elastic-waisted pants were being used all the time instead of suspenders, right? So, elastic-waisted pants or pants with a belt are the ones that are sort of supported by something around your waist, and pants that use suspenders are where you have the leather or elastic that goes over your shoulders and clips onto your pants to hold them up, and for obvious reasons, you can’t really dack someone who’s using suspenders, because, you know, the pants will go straight back up. You can’t pull them down.
So, if you bagged someone, back in the day, this was a form of humiliation or bullying, because you’d pull their pants down to embarrass them. But since this time, it’s obviously morphed, it’s transformed, it’s evolved, into meaning to tease someone or to insult or criticise someone. So, now we can say, ‘to bag someone’, ‘to bag on someone’, or ‘to bag someone out’, and we can say ‘to pay someone out’, which I think, I would hypothesise, I would assume, ‘to pay someone out’ is something that has come from ‘to bag someone out’, and that is an incredibly common phrase, ‘to pay someone out’, that you will hear Australian kids use. This is the kind of thing I used at high school and I would still use with people my age when you are teasing someone or insulting someone. You’re bagging them out, you’re paying them out, you’re teasing them.
Alright, so let’s go through some examples, guys.
Example number one. You’re a kid at school. You’re in the playground. You’re playing cricket or footy on the oval and one kid that you know at school is hopeless. He can’t play ball games. So, he’s absolutely horrible when he plays cricket. He’s always getting bowled out for a duck, which means as soon as it’s his turn to bat, to try and hit the ball, he gets bowled out, the ball hits the wickets, and he doesn’t score a run. He gets bowled out for a duck. Or if he’s playing footy, maybe any time he gets the ball he drops it or he kicks it out of bounds on the full instead of scoring a point or a goal in the game. So, all the other kids on his team are going to be like, “This kid’s useless! He sucks! He can’t play for shit!”. That’s a very informal way of saying that you can’t do something at all, you ‘can’t do that thing for shit’. So, they might bag him. They might bag on him. They might bag him out. They might pay him out. And as a throwback to previous episodes, if their words pack a bit of a punch, he might get really upset, but years later, after a long time, if kids apologise to him for this, it’s probably going to be water under the bridge. So, those were the last two episodes that we did on the expressions, ‘to pack a bit of a punch’ and ‘water under the bridge’.
Alright, so example number two. Now you’re a teenager. You’re a young adult. Hopefully, you’ve gotten a lot better at ball games. But imagine now we’re talking about fashion and fashion trends, and this seems to be a pattern everywhere where young kids end up getting different styles of haircuts wearing different kinds of clothes that make them unique. Imagine that you’ve come home one day you’ve got a new haircut or maybe you’ve bought a different jacket or jumper, some piece of clothing that looks really different, your parents might be like, “What on earth are you wearing? You look like a weirdo. You look incredibly strange with that haircut?” you know, “Get a proper haircut! Did the store run out of good clothing or something? What’s wrong with you?”. So, if your parents do that, if your folks do that, they’re bagging you, they’re bagging on you, they’re bagging you out, they’re paying you out.
Example number three. Alright, for the last example here imagine you’re a musician. You’ve grown up playing the piano or playing violin or playing guitar and you love classical music. Now this is relatively uncommon among kids. Most kids tend to like contemporary music instead of classical music by composers like Mozart or Beethoven or Brahms. So, despite this, you’re often playing this music. You’re practicing it. Maybe you play it yourself on the violin, piano, or guitar, or maybe you listen to it on record or on CD. So, when you do this, your friends might come over and, you know, they’re not used to classical music so they might tease you, they might make fun of you, and they might say things like, “What’s with the old music, grandpa? or “What happened? Did iTunes stop selling good music?”. If they’re doing this, they’re bagging, they’re paying you out, they’re bagging you out, they’re bagging on you.
So, hopefully by now, guys, you understand the expression ‘to bag someone’ or the different variations ‘to bag on someone’, ‘to bag someone out’ or ‘to pay someone out’. They all effectively mean to tease someone, to insult someone, to criticise someone. And it can be playful, you know, it can be kind of friendly teasing, or it can be incredibly harsh.
So, let’s go through a listen and repeat exercise, guys, and then we’ll finish up. So, listen and repeat after me, guys. This is a chance for you to practice your pronunciation. Let’s go.
Listen & Repeat:
To bag someone
To bag on someone.
To bag on someone
To bag someone out.
To bag someone
To bag on someone
To bag someone out.
I’m always bagging her out
You’re always bagging her out
He is always bagging her out
She’s always bagging her out
We’re always bagging her out
They’re always bagging her out
It’s always bagging her out
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Anyway, I have one little story that I wanted to tell you guys about when I was at high school, ’cause I used to get bagged out, I used to get paid out all the time. So, when I was in high school, right, we had to do sports. It was compulsory that we played a sport every season, normally winter and summer seasons, for our school.
So, I used to do two sports. I used to do soccer and I used to do tennis, and obviously, there were other sports at the school, you know, sports like swimming or footy or cricket, but I preferred soccer and tennis, and I also did fencing, okay? Fencing is where you sword fight except it’s more…, nowadays, it’s, as a sport, it’s more that you have a wire that you hit each other with or you try and press the button on the end of a wire in order to score points.
So, I used to get paid out or I used to get bagged out for doing soccer by all the boys who did footy, because footy was seen as much more masculine, much more manly. So, soccer kids used to get paid out. They used to get banged. And everyone used to bag me for doing fencing, because this was seen as, I guess, very feminine. It wasn’t very manly. It wasn’t very physical in the sense that you would come into contact with other kids. Instead you were sort of pressing a button on the end of a wire by touching another kid.
So, those were the kinds of things I used to get paid out for or bagged for when I was at high school. And I would love to know, guys, make sure that you comment below and let me know, what did you get bagged for when you were a kid at high school? We always have funny stories, okay. So, I would love to hear from you. Use your English and tell me, what were you bagged out for?
Anyway, guys, that is long enough for today. I hope you have an amazing week. Don’t forget to check out the Effortless Phrasal Verb course, and remember use the coupon code 21OFF to get that for just $89 instead of $110. The link will be in the transcript as well.
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