In this episode I explain another idiom that involves animals, “To hold your horses”, which is said when asking someone to be patient, to wait, to hold on.
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Ep049: Expression – To Hold Your Horses
G’day guys! Welcome to this episode of Aussie English. Today is yet again one more idiom, phrase, expression using animals, or related to animals.
So, today’s phrase is going to be the idiom or the expression “To hold your horses,” “To hold your horses.” What does “to hold your horses” mean? It means to be patient, to wait, or to hold on. So, “Hold your horses, mate!” it just means, “Can you hold on? Can you wait for a minute, for a sec? Can you be patient?” you know, “Relax for a moment, and wait”. I’ll explain the different words in this phrase as usual.
So, “To hold”. It’s a verb. “To hold”. If you hold something you grasp, you grip, you can carry it, you keep it, you detain it. So, if you hold someone you’re detaining them or you’re picking them up. If you hold something, you know, like a tool, you’re grasping it you’re gripping it in your hands, um… and you’re carrying it. You’re holding it up. So, you’re holding it.
Ah… the word “Horse.” I’m sure most of you will know what this animal is. It’s a farm animal with four legs, with hooves, we often put a big saddle on it and people can ride them on the farm. So, in Australia at least horses you’re going to see either as pets that people use for sports like equestrian where they ride them or they might race them. So, we often have ah… the Melbourne Cup day here each year in Melbourne where there’s the races, people dress up, they wear all kinds of fancy hats, suits and dresses and they go to the races to watch the horses race. And, they’re also used in the outback or on farms as a cheaper and probably more environmentally friendly way of herding cattle and getting around long distances on a farm. So, if people are herding cattle, or mustering cattle, as we say when people are using a horse or a motorbike to get the cattle to come back to a certain paddock or something, um… yeah, they often use horses in order to ride around and manoeuvre the cattle into a big group and then take them back to the farm, to whatever they need to do with the cattle. So, that’s what a horse is.
So, when would you use this phrase guys? “To hold your horses”, or as the imperative “Hold your horses!” Um… it’s just any time you want someone to be patient, to calm down, to relax, to hold on, and to wait. So, say, someone is cooking dinner and they’re kids are like, “I’m hungry. I’m hungry. I’m hungry. When’s dinner? When’s dinner? Can we eat yet? Can we eat yet?” you can say, “Look guys, chill out, hold your horses, just relax. Dinner will be ready in a minute. I need you to hold your horses. Hold your horses”.
Sorry I forgot to explain that “Holding your horses” suggests that you are holding onto the reins of the horse, which is the um… leather material used to control the horse. So, the like… strap, the reins that are used on the horse. If you’re holding onto those reins you’re controlling the horses. You’re forcing them to wait, to hold on, to be patient. So, that’s the reason we say, “To hold your horses”. You’re not literally picking the horses up, but you’re grasping and gripping onto the reins of the horses to control them.
And so, another example could be that, you know, you’re driving somewhere and you’ve got your kids in the car and they’re saying “Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?” and you say, “Look hold your horses. We’re going to be there soon but I need you to chill out, relax, hold on, be patient. Hold your horses”.
So, let’s go through an exercise today guys and I’ll do the first one which will be the phrase “calm down and hold your horses”. So repeat after me:
Calm down and hold your horses
Calm down and hold your horses
Calm down and hold your horses
Calm down and hold your horses
Calm down and hold your horses
And the next phrase is going to be “I need to hold my horses”, and we’ll conjugate through this one:
I need to hold my horses
You need to hold your horses
He needs to hold his horses
She needs to hold her horses
We need to hold our horses
They need to hold their horses
And I might just mention that in the phrase “I need to hold my horses” whenever the possessive pronoun, so you’re saying “my, your, his, hers, ours…”, for the pronoun such as “his, hers and ours” they kind of roll off, they kind of bounce off the “D” on the end of the word “hold”. So, it’s like “hol-dis horses”, “hol-der horses”, “hol-dour horses”, do you know what I mean? “hol-dis horses”, “hol-der horses”, “hol-dour horses”. So you’ll hear when I say it in the phrases, and I’ll… I’ll say them again just so you can practice them:
I need to hold my horses
You need to hold your horses
He needs to hold his horses
She needs to hold her horses
We need to hold our horses
They need to hold their horses
So, that’s just another thing to practice, to take note of, in making your language spoken English a little more fluid when you speak. And, so that was the phrase, that was the expression “to hold your horses”. To hold on, to wait, to be patient. So, calm down, hold your horses, we’re about to get to the end of the episode. See you later guys!
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By pete — 5 months ago
Learn Australian English in this expression episode of the Aussie English Podcast where I teach you to use the expression A TASTE OF YOUR OWN MEDICINE.
AE 480 – Expression: A Taste of Your Own Medicine
G’day, guys! Welcome to this episode of Aussie English. This is the Aussie English Podcast, the number one podcast for anyone and everyone wanting to learn Australian English, or just English in general, as I always say.
So, guys, how have you been going? What’s been going on? No intro scene today. I was going to record this episode this morning, but my housemates… one of them goes out really early in the morning and has to work. He works as a swimming instructor. And so, he buggered off really early in the morning at like six thirty or something, (at the) crack of dawn, but he gets breaks during the day. So, he came back it would have been like nine o’clock, and I was just writing this episode, putting it together, and then he went to sleep, he wanted to sleep for a bit before he went back to work.
So, I decided, you know, what I’m not going to record the episode this morning, instead I’ll invert my day, I’ll reverse the order of my day and how I’d planned it, and I went out to Mulligan’s Flat, yet again, the reserve nearby where I live in Canberra here with loads of animals, and I was out there shooting with the new lens that I’ve got.
So, I recently got a lens. Hopefully, you guys have heard about this or seen the video that I was talking about this in on YouTube, and I made a Walking With Pete episode recently discussing photography and how much fun I’m kind of having with it. So, you’ll have to keep an eye out for that one. That’ll be out soon when I get around to making it, although, it ended up being a bit of a long one. It was about 27 minutes, I think 27 minutes, almost half an hour.
But yeah, today was amazing. I went out there at about 10 and got back at about 2 in the afternoon. (I) saw loads of wallabies, loads of kangaroos, heaps of birds, lots of little small passerine birds. These are things like honeyeaters and… What are the other ones? Robins. Really small ones, and now with this new lens I can finally get them.
So, it was an amazing day. I’m really happy. I’m really starting to enjoy a little more being a podcaster and someone who works from home, because I’ve sort of structured my day around what I want to do, and I talk about this in the Walking With Pete episode coming up, making your day the kind of day that you want to enjoy. Anyway, guys.
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Big intro, guys. Let’s dive into the episode.
Today’s Aussie joke, today’s Aussie joke, is about an optometrist. So, this… I found this one, I thought of this one, when… obviously the expression for today is ‘a taste of your own medicine’. I typed in ‘medicine jokes’, ’cause I know that there’s a lot of doctor jokes, but I found this one about optometrists. And ‘optometrists’ are the ones who make your glasses for your eyes. Okay? So, here’s an optometrist joke.
Did you hear about the optometrist that fell into his lens grinding machine?
I wonder if you guys know where this is going to go.
Did you hear about the optometrist that fell into his lens grinding machine? The machine that used to grind lenses so they can be used for glasses.
The answer: He made a spectacle of himself.
He made a spectacle of himself. Do you get it?
‘A spectacle’ can be used for someone who makes a scene, right, something to be looked at, something to be watched. So, if you were to do something embarrassing in front of a lot of people, you’re making a spectacle, right? If you were to take your clothes off at a football game and do what is called ‘streaking’, which some guys tend to do in Australia at footy matches, if you were to streak at a game like that, you would be making a spectacle.
But ‘a spectacle’ or ‘a pair of spectacles’ is also another way of saying ‘glasses’, ‘eye glasses’, that you look through, that allow people who have poorer vision than average, than 20/20, ‘a spectacle’ or ‘a set of spectacles’ allows them to see. A set of glasses.
So, did you hear about the optometrist that fell into his lens grinding machine? He made a spectacle of himself. Wow. Anyway, guys.
As I said, today’s expression is ‘a taste of your own medicine’, ‘a taste of your own medicine’. I wonder if you guys have heard this before.
Now Yu was the one who suggested this. Congratulations Yu. This was the first one she’s won. She is in the Aussie English Classroom private Facebook group and suggested this expression along with all the other members, we voted on them, and Yu won. Well done, Yu!
So, let’s go through and define the different words in the expression ‘a taste of your own medicine’, ‘a taste of your own medicine’. Okay.
‘A taste’, ‘a taste’. ‘A taste’ is the sensation of flavour perceived in the mouth and throat on contact with a substance. So, you put food in your mouth, you’re having a taste of that food, right? You’re tasting the food, you’re having a taste of the food. A taste of something. Have a taste! I’ve baked a cake. Have a taste of it. Have a try. Put it in your mouth and taste it. ‘A taste’.
‘Your own’, ‘your own’, ‘your own something’, ‘your own’. ‘Your own’… when we use ‘own’ that way with possessive words beforehand, we are emphasising that someone or something belongs or is related to the person mentioned, right? So, if it is ‘your own phone’ it’s an emphasis showing that that phone belongs to you. If it’s ‘your own work’, you’ve written an essay, this is my very own work, my own essay. It is your essay. It’s a way of emphasising that, right?
‘Medicine’, ‘medicine’. ‘Medicine’ is a drug or other preparation for the treatment or prevention of a disease. So, I’m sure when you guys got sick when you were younger, your mother or your father would have given you medicine, you know, Panadol or Paracetamol, whatever drug it was, to help you feel better. They would have given you medicine.
So, let’s go through and define the expression, guys, and before we do that, I want you to know that this expression you might hear in a range of different ways with a few different verbs before ‘a taste of your own medicine’.
So. you might hear it as ‘to give someone a taste of their own medicine’, ‘to give someone a taste of their own medicine’. And you might also hear, ‘to get a taste of your own medicine’ or ‘to have a taste of your own medicine’. It can be quite often heard with those three verbs. ‘To give someone a taste of their own medicine’, ‘to get a taste of your own medicine’, or ‘to have a taste of your own medicine’.
So, I wonder if you guys know this expression of what it means. If you get, if you have, if you give someone, a taste of one’s own medicine, it is that that person is experiencing the same harmful or unpleasant thing or things that they were doing to someone else. So, if they were inflicting some kind of harmful thing or unpleasant thing on another person, and then suddenly, they were to receive that exact same harmful unpleasant thing, that treatment, back to themselves, that is a taste of their own medicine. So, an attack in the same manner in which someone has attacked someone else, right? If I punch you and then you punch me, that’s me receiving a taste of my own medicine.
So, I looked into the origin of this one and, apparently, the origin of the phrase ‘a taste of your own medicine’ comes from Aesop’s famous story about a swindler, someone who tricks people and sells things in order to make money and… trick people, a swindler who sells fake medicine claiming that it can cure anything. And then, this swindler becomes sick himself, he becomes ill, he falls ill, and people give him his own medicine, which he knows won’t work. So, literally, he got a taste of his own medicine, and figuratively, he got a taste of his own medicine.
Alright, so let’s go through three different real-life examples of how I would use this expression.
Example number one. Imagine that you have a friend or a young relative who is always pulling pranks on you. So, maybe he puts whoopie cushions on your chairs before you sit down. And whoopie cushions are these sort of rubber cushions that when you fill them with air and someone sits on them they go, *plthhh*, and it sounds like you farted, even though you didn’t really fart. So, maybe his putting would be cushions on a chair before you sit down as a prank. Maybe he put red food dye in your red wine before you drank it, and then after drinking it, your mouth was completely red. Or maybe he prank calls you. He calls you up and says, it’s the cops, you know, it’s the police. You need to come down to the police station. So, he’s pranking you a lot, right? If you get sick of him doing this and you thought, mmm, I’m going to have to get my revenge and do to him what he’s done to me. Then you’re going to give him a taste of his own medicine. Maybe you get him a chair to sit on and there’s a wonky leg, you know, a leg that’s kind of about to break, about to fall off the chair, it’s a bit wonky, and then, when he sits down, Bob’s your uncle, the chair breaks and he falls over, falls on his arse, and embarrasses himself. He got a taste of his own medicine. He had a taste of his own medicine and you gave him a taste of his own medicine. Right? So, he received the unpleasantness that he had been giving you.
Example number two. Alright, imagine that you’re a restaurant manager with a temper, and this is a true story. This is something, you know, that happened when I was working in hospitality and one of our managers was an awful person who would always lose her temper. So, you’re a restaurant manager, you’ve got a temper, you always get angry at customers, at other staff members, workers, at waiters, at chefs, at dishwashers, and you’re always taking out your frustration, your stress, and your anger on other people. One day, they all decide enough is enough and they gang up on you. So, when you suddenly decide to lose your temper and rage up at them, instead, when they see that you’re about to crack, they all start raging at you all at once yelling at you. So, this time, everyone else has given you the same treatment you usually give them. So, they gave you a taste of your own medicine, you got a taste of your own medicine, and you had a taste of your own medicine when it comes to the workers yelling at you instead of the other way round. You received a kind of unpleasantness that you usually dole out to others.
Example Number three. You’re a little kid at school and you’re known for always bagging out other children. So, you’re a boy, right, you’re nasty to other kids, you teased them, you pick on them, you pay them out, you bag them, and it makes you feel superior, you know? Bullies like to do it because it makes them feel better. So, your abuse usually packs quite a punch and causes kids to cry or to run away and dob you in to the teacher, that’s to go to the teacher and tell on you, ‘to dob you in’. And one day a new kid comes to school and is bigger than you, and he’s stronger than you, and he’s a worse bully than you. And in order to sort of assert his dominance, instead of teasing the other kids, he comes straight for you. He comes after you, he bags you, he teases you, he pays you out, like crazy, enough for you to cry, run away, and go and dob on him to the teacher. And what’s the teacher going to say when you do that? They’re going to say, this kid just gave you a taste of your own medicine. You’ve just had a taste of your own medicine from this kid. You got a taste of your own medicine from this kid. Okay? So, the teacher might show absolutely no sympathy towards you. You received the unpleasantness that you usually give other people.
So, I hope you understand the expression, guys, ‘a taste of your own medicine’. Remember, it can be used with verbs like ‘to give someone a taste of their own medicine’, ‘to have a taste of one’s own medicine’, and ‘to get a taste of one’s own medicine’. And it is when an experience of the same harmful or unpleasant thing that someone does to other people is received by that person. So, it kind of boomerangs back on them, right? And I just use the word ‘boomerang’ as a verb.
(A) ‘boomerang’ is that… the curved stick that Aboriginals used to hunt animals in Australia, and there is a stereotype that it comes back. So, it boomerangs, right? You’ve probably seen that on Instagram. Boomerang. Anyway, I diverge.
Let’s get on to the listening and repeating exercise, or listen and repeat exercise, okay. So, this is your chance to practice your pronunciation, guys, before we finish up. So, listen and repeat after me and practice your English accent. Let’s go.
To give you
To give you a
To give you a taste
To give you a taste of
To give you a taste of your
To give you a taste of your own
To give you a taste of your own medicine x 5
That was a long one today, guys. I hope you did alright. So, now I’m going to use it in the future perfect tense. Okay? I will have got… You will have got… Okay? So, ‘will have’ + the past participle. And I want you to pay attention to how I’m pronouncing ‘will have’, okay? You’re going to notice that it gets contracted. Let’s go.
I’ll have got a taste of my own medicine
You’ll have got a taste of your own medicine
He’ll have got a taste of his own medicine
She’ll have got a taste of her own medicine
We’ll have got a taste of our own medicine
They’ll have got a taste of their own medicine
It’ll have got a taste of its own medicine
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So, today’s Aussie fact. I decided to look up medical inventions from Australia. So, I thought, I know that there’s a few medical inventions that were created in Australia. So, I thought I would do a search, I’d list them, I’d mention them, and I would discuss each of them for you, guys. So, I’ve got six here. Okay.
And if you want to read a more in-depth article about these inventions and a couple of other ones that were also listed go to ScienceAlert.com. Okay. It’ll be in the transcript if you want the link to read this article. Okay. Let’s go.
So, number one: Medical application of penicillin. So, the Australian researcher Howard Florey worked with a team in the UK to purify penicillin from a special strain of mould. This is how it was originally done. And he later showed it could fight bacterial infection in humans. The antibiotic changed modern medicine forever, although obviously, we’re going to probably have problems in the near future because antibiotics are less and less effective these days.
Number Two: disease-diagnosing nano-patches. Disease-diagnosing nano-patches. This is still a relatively new invention, but these nano-patches have the potential to change the way we diagnose disease in the future. They were developed by researchers at the University of Queensland, and the patches are covered in tiny microscopic needles that can quickly and painlessly detect disease carrying proteins in the blood. How crazy’s that? And it means that you don’t need a blood test. So, because these patches have access to the human bloodstream, obviously, with those little needles, you don’t have to get blood tests. So, as someone who really hates blood tests, I’m looking forward to these becoming more predominantly used.
Number three: the bionic ear. I know! I didn’t realise this until I read this too. The bionic ear. One of our best-known exports is the cochlear implant. Both my grandparents have one of these. And the cochlear implant was created by Graeme Clark a researcher at the University of Melbourne. The device has helped more than 250,000 people with profound hearing loss to hear again. So, how crazy is that? The cochlear implant.
Number four: spray-on-skin. Now, I remember this one being in the news. Spray-on-skin has saved the lives of tens of thousands of burn victims around the world and was invented by a woman named Fiona Wood from the University of Western Australia. The invention works by taking a small patch of a patient’s skin, then growing it in the lab so that it can be sprayed back on to the person’s skin, where they’ve been burnt, over their wounds and create a protective barrier. Really cool!
So, number five: the ultrasound scanner. I didn’t realise this one was ours too. Every expectant mum around the world when they go to the hospital would be more than familiar with the ultrasound scanner, but what people might not know is that the initial discovery that ultrasounds could bounce off soft tissue was made by the CSIRO, and in 1976 it was commercialised by an Australian company called Ausonics.
Number six, the very last one, guys: electronic pacemakers. Another one that blew my mind. The first pacemaker was made impulsively back in 1926, at Sydney’s Crown Street Women’s Hospital to help save a newborn patient suffering from heart problems. The device was used to stimulate the baby’s heartbeat with electric pulses and was created by medical doctor Mark Lidwill, but he was so concerned about the ethical implications of his invention that he refused recognition and patents despite his inventions saving hundreds of thousands of lives around the world.
So, there you go, guys. I hope you enjoy this episode today. Thanks so much for spending the last 20 minutes listening to me. I do really, really appreciate you guys and I hope you have an amazing weekend. I’ll chat to you guys soon. Peace out!
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By pete — 9 months ago
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AE 442 – Vlog: Brazilian Food Isn’t What I Expected | Australian vs Brazilian Food & Culture
Alright, guys. So, we’re going to some place Deli Cravings that Kel just found, because apparently it sells Brazilian food authentic Brazilian food that’s been imported from Brazil, huh? And Kel’s pretty excited. She started screaming on the computer in the lounge room, and is like “You have to come with me! You’ve got to take me. Even though, it’s ANZAC Day, it’s open. We need to go. We need to go get food I need you to try my… the food of my people. You need to try it. Try the food! Try the f*cking food, Pete! She didn’t say that. She was a little calmer, just slightly. Let’s see.
Alright, so we’re here in this little… I don’t know what you call this place, like, mall. There’s shops open everywhere, even though it’s Anzac Day today. So, they should be close, but obviously, they don’t care. They don’t give a sh*t. Here we go. Here’s the place.
Straight ahead and on your left.
Can you see it?
No. So exciting! That’s it.
Oh, I don’t know what this is, but we’re going to try it. I wish I could see Kel’s face now, guys, she’s like a kid in a candy store. So, there’s lots of foreign food here. It looks amazing.
Paçoquinha. There’s another one. I have no idea what it is, but apparently we’re going to try it. *Portuguese*. I know pau de queijo. Pão*. “Pão”, not “pau”. Pão de queijo. Oh, too funny.
I can’t take everything. I have to choose. I know, you’re going to have to be selective. I have no idea what all this is , but I’m looking forward to eating. Tapioca. There’s another one. What’s that one? Batata paiha. Oh yeah, you guys love that. They’re like little chips, aren’t they? I know farofa, but I’m always like “What is it? Rice or is it because cous cous?”. It’s something else though, right? Farofa.
Kel just lost her sh*t. She was showing me this earlier today. There you go. Brazilians in Canberra, this is where you need to come! So, Kel has stocked up, guys. She has stocked up. There you go.
How’s it going? Would you like a bag? Yes please. How’s your day going? Busy? Actually, busier than we expected. Yeah, we didn’t expect you to be open. She lost her sh*t. She found all this Brazilian traditional food and was like, “We need to go to the store”. You guys should advertise this. There’re so many Brazilians. Yeah, she’s been here for two years and hasn’t had any of this. And she’s just like, “Oh my god!”. Did you want a receipt? No, you’re all good. Thanks a lot. Have a good day. Thanks. See you. Where’re we going?
Alright, guys, we’ve stocked up. We have stocked up. We have like 40 bucks worth of Brazilian food, which doesn’t amount to much once it’s been imported here to Australia, but it’s going to be an interesting experience to see what this is like. I haven’t had any traditional Brazilian food that’s actually come in packages or anything, right? We’ve made a few things like brigadeiros, and that was about it.
Yeah, and requejão.
Requejão também. We also had requejão. So, this is going to be good fun, guys. This is going to be good. I have no idea what to expect. In fact, I think I do know what to expect, a lot… a lot of sugar. I reckon it’s going to be as sugary as sh*t.
So, I am here today testing Brazilian food.
What’s the first one that’s coming my way? You… I’ve got to say, do I?
Tradição Brasileira, Paçoquinha.
Paçoquinha. So, what is this exactly? Paçoquinha? Or do you want to eat first and then tell me?
Um, just yeah… go for it. Smell it.
It looks like these little cylinders. Little cylinders. They kind of remind me of those apricot treats that you can get in Australia. Have you ever seen those with like Kirchen on the outside?
It’s really sweet, but I can already smell…
I can smell the amount of peanut butter. So, this is paçoquinha.
It’s very sweet.
Really, really sweet. You could never go through a whole one of those.
No. Oh really? I don’t find it really sweet.
No, it’s really sweet. It’s not what I was expecting. I was expecting it to be a more peanut buttery and really dense, ’cause those apricot things that I have in Australia… those apricot things are really really dense and chewy. So, I was expecting it to be like that but this feels like a kind of powdery and you bite into it. But it was very nice. Very sweet. Wow. So, this is the inside of it. Yeah, oh my god! I could have one of those, I think. Oh! They are really strong. Can I get a glass of water?
So that I can wash my mouth out. It’s very powdery. Sticks all over my mouth. Alright, I’ve cleansed my mouth and I’m ready for the next one. So, what’s next?
Bis. These look like waffle biscuits.
We used to have these with my… My grandmother loved these things, but they were like pink or yellow when they would come out. She would bring them out when I would get to our place. So, I think you can probably get these in Australia. Though, I haven’t seen… I haven’t seen them like this for. So, what are these? Bis. Nova formula. Woah, look out, “new formula”, guys. “Lacta”, that tells me there’s milk in it. Alright. Oh, the packaging looks a lot nicer than the Australian ones. The Australian ones, you’d pull it out of here and they would just be sitting there ready to come out. Wow, so that’s… look at that.
“Bis” is like “Again”. So, “você pedi um bis” is like you want something to happen again. So, if you’re singing and I’m like, “Oh, um bis”, it’s like, “Oh, sing again!”.
You get it. Yeah.
So, this is tiny. I was expecting it to be much bigger based on what I was looking at here. It’s a bit of false advertising there. Alright, so let’s give this a go. Kel’s getting into it. You haven’t had one of these in a while?
A long time.
Holy molly. Alright, so here we go. They look pretty good. They look like… Oh, there’s some Chomp bars that you can get in Australia and it looks like this. They’re called Chomps and they’ve got caramel in them. They’re really good. Alright. Yeah, these are good. I could eat a lot of these.
That’s Bis. Mmm so good!
I think I need a second one just to be sure that’s what I’m tasting. What are these like the Brazilian version of Tim Tams?
Yeah, but Tim Tams are extremely sweet for me.
Wow, yeah, they’re good. I really like those. They are just those waffle biscuits. You can definitely find those all around Australia. But they seem to come differently. They’ll be thin, but I think they’ve obviously used the same stamp, ’cause they have the same patterning.
What’s next. Guaraná.
So, the funny thing was Kel showed me, today, this morning, she’s like, “Have you ever tried Guanará?”, which is like the Brazilian version of coke, right? Like, it’s sugary. You’ve got coke, but it’s your special Brazilian…
It’s our main… yeah.
“O original do Brazil”. So, “the original from Brazil”. This is Guaraná Antartica. Alright, so it contains caffeine. Cuidado. Watch out!
And what is Guaraná exactly? It’s is a berr?
It’s a fruit. Yeah, the thing.
Yeah. So, I’ve never tasted the fruit. I’ve never had one of these, but I always hear Brazilians talking about it. So, like, this one was nice and cold in the fridge when we got there. Opens like normal can.
Smells like a normal drink.
Yeah. Alright, I’m guessing it’s going to be green or yellow. Oh, nailed it! So, do I just do a little bit? Alright, let’s just leave that there. Oh, it smells very Aramaic. Aromatic*. Lots and lots of fruits.
Just have a lot!
Have a lot? Ok. Is this going to blow my mind? That’s pretty good. It’s hard to describe though, ’cause it’s kind of like a fizzy drink, soft drink, but it’s fruity. It’s nowhere near as sweet as I was expecting.
I was expecting that to look like Mountain Dew or something, you know, just based on this and being like, “Oh my God”.
It tastes exactly like diabetes.
How much sugar does that actually have in it? Oh, it was only 10 grams, 10 percent. I don’t know what Coke is, but I think cokes are way more than 10 percent. So, that’s actually quite good. Keep smashing that.
So, these’re the other two things that you can wanting to show me. Nescau.
Nescau, which is our Milo, but better.
Which just looks like chocolate drink. Yeah, your milo, but better huh?
Robbed! I’ve been robbed!
This looks pretty good. The other thing that I noticed, or Kel noticed, was farofa, which is what exactly? Cassava flour did you say? Cassava flour with these ingredients mixed in. And so, you have this as a side. And initially, I thought it looked like… Oh, is that like rice or something? Like, it looks like cous cous, but apparently it’s not. You wouldn’t have that much of it, right? It’s just kind of a little additive.
Yeah, that’s it. You described it perfectly.
Alright. Well, I guess, we will have that tonight and hopefully I can video that and include that, guys. Anyway, see you at dinnertime, guys.
Alright, guys, we’re back. It’s dinnertime. Kel’s cooked this nice little meal. We’ve got some black rice here, and then, what would you call this, Kel? This chicken.
This is herbed chicken.
Herbed chicken, yes. And also… excuse me. We have farofa. So, how do I eat this? What do I do with it? Do I just…?
You can try like that, but I think it might be a bit…
Do I just put it on the top?
No, just… Yeah, a little bit on the side. Yeah, and then you can mix it with rice if you want or…
Maybe, I should… I’ll get some of this rice and I’ll try the farofa. Alright. Actually, I might use a spoon. So, I’ve no idea what to expect. Is it good?
It’s really dry, and nice and salty. It’s not bad, it’s just…
It’s kind of like it feels like they’ve gotten plain salty chips and put them in a blender, and that’s what you’ve ended up with all these… This is what a packet of chips is like when it’s been ground up.
Yeah, I was expecting it to be like flour, like chicken salt or something, very fine, but it’s chewy.
Yeah, it can be a bit…
Interesting. So, farofa. Not bad!
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AE 398 – Interview: On Celebrating Australia Day & Changing The Date with Ian Smissen
G’day, guys! Welcome to this episode of Aussie English. Today, I have yet another interview for you guys. Today’s a special interview, because it’s with my father, it’s with my dad. So, we sat down on Australia Day the other day and we had a bit of a chat about what it was like for him growing up, how he learnt about Australia day in school, how it compares to places like America and the different holidays they have. We kind of talk about patriotism and nationalism in Australia compared to America as well, and how you should celebrate Australia Day if you are from overseas, but you want to take part in that holiday.
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Alright, Dad welcome to the Aussie English podcast.
Hey! Good to be back.
You’ve been on quite a few times. I don’t think I put any of the episodes up. So, I’ll have to see what the order is in the future with this one.
Oh well, so yeah. Hi everyone. Happy to be here if it’s the first time. Happy to be back.
I think that’s going to be probably out early, ’cause we’re going to be talking about Australia Day. So, yeah well, I’ve got three days to get it up.
You’ve got three days to get it up.
So, well I can just… I guess, we should just start with your experience of Australia Day growing up, how you celebrated it, and maybe a bit about the history of it.
Yeah well look, Australia Day for me was just, when I was a kid, was just another public holiday. You don’t see the significance of it as an Australian national celebration when you were a child. It’s just another public holiday. But it always falls in the school holidays anyway. So, it was really just a day that both Mum and Dad were available, and we… you know, it was… often we’d go away for the day or we’d go to the beach or we do something like that. So, mostly it was a family thing, when I was a child. As I was growing up, once I got to be a teenager or a young adult, a lot of it was around another time just to hang out with your mates. The classic Australian… have the Australian barbecue or go to the beach or… used to be back in those days, there was always a cricket match on. The way the scheduling of cricket is done now it’s a bit different. But so, there’s always something to go and do with your friends.
So, what were your fondest memories of that sort of holiday? Was it always related to the beach?
Yeah mostly the beach, because obviously it’s falling in the middle of our summer, and it’s a public holiday, so both parents were available. So, it was a sort of family thing to go to the beach.
And how would you compare it, I guess, to things like July 4th and our perception of that in Australia? Is Australia overly nationalistic or patriotic?
Yeah, there is a patriotic element to it. I think there’s… we’re not as patriotic as the Americans are with regard to some of the symbols like Independence Day, the flag, and those sort of things, but there’s a strong element of that.
It’s the weirdest thing, I think I notice for Australia Day’s probably the only time you’ll see the Australian flag, unless it’s maybe Anzac Day.
Yeah, I mean there are flags on buildings and those sort of things, and, you know, public buildings always have, you know, the Australian flag or the state flag or both, sometimes the Aboriginal flag here or the Aboriginal Torres Strait Island flag, even though Torres Strait Islander have their own know. They identify with the standard sort of black red and yellow one. So, there’s that element. But you’re right. I think, you know, if you go driving around today two or three days before Australia day there’ll be people who’ll have the Australian flag hanging from the aerial on a car and they’ll have it, you know, maybe in the front of the house and things, but, you know, that doesn’t happen as often.
And the funny thing is they take it down pretty much straightaway after, right?
Yeah, it’d go down. So, it’s there for the, you know, celebration of the day rather than it being a sort of nationalistic patriotic thing full-time.
What do you think with that? Digging in and going away from Australia a slightly. Why do you think Americans are so much more patriotic than Australians when, you know, I would imagine both countries have their reasons to be proud of who they are?
Yeah, yeah, and, look, it’s difficult to judge the distinction between patriotism and the symbolism of patriotism. I think most people around the world are patriotic towards their country, but sometimes those symbols of the things that we concentrate on like the flag, the national anthem, national holidays, those sort of things. I think Americans, and you know, apologies to my American friends and relatives.
Who are learning Australian English.
Who are learning Australian English, who will cringe at what I’m about to say, but certainly as a foreigner, a non-American, my impression of American patriotism is it is about the fact that the Americans, 250 years ago, fought for their national identity. They fought to become a country. Which Australia did not.
So, we have not gone through that.
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Australia did not. Australia was a penal settlement originally and we then Federated to become a country by joining the colonies together in to states in one country, which was in 1901. Yeah. So, it’s only 117 years ago that that happened. But we never fought to become a country. We didn’t fight to get rid of the British to become a country, we just did. So, I think there’s that patriotism in most countries, as I said, about people, you know, like the country they live in and they respect the culture and the history and all those sort of things. But in the case of America, I think it is a bit of a sort of national celebration of the fact that they deliberately created a country by fighting for it.
Yeah. It was always weird for me, because, I guess, growing up I never really understood the whole being that proud, you know, of being from a certain country. In Australia, I don’t know… What did you… how do you feel about the average Australian and their sort of opinion of being Australia? Because we just don’t seem to wear it like the Americans seem to or like other countries seem to.
Yeah, look, yeah, you’re right. I think it comes down… it’s almost… it doesn’t… it doesn’t sort of eventuate or does doesn’t show until it counts. And by “it counts”, it may not be something dramatic like a war or something, but Australians are extremely patriotic when it comes to sport. You know, if we’re playing a sport against another country or we go to the Olympics or the World Championships or the Commonwealth Games or any of those sort of things, Australians become very patriotic about wanting Australians to be successful on their behalf. And so, I think that. Whereas, we just tend not to celebrate… overtly celebrate Australia as a country without any particular reason.
Yeah, it is a bit of a peculiar one with regards to that. Why do you think it’s so associated with the beach? Is it just ’cause it’s…
Well yeah, I mean, if you come from… Come from Central Australia or you come from an inland town that isn’t near the beach, then you’re not going to associate that with the beach. If you grew up in a small country town in outback New South Wales, you’re probably going to associate your leisure activities with rural activities that are not related to the beach. It could be going to a dam on a farm or it could be going to a lake, or… if there’s no water around at all, who knows what it would be. But, most of the Australian population live very close to the coast. All of our large cities are on the coast. The two largest cities, which comprise more than a third of the population of the whole country, are focused right on the beach. Melbourne on the bay and Sydney on its own surf beaches. And so, our leisure activities, particularly over summer, which is obviously along school holidays when you’re growing up, are often you go to the beach. The beach is free. It’s fun. People surf, they swim, they lie around in the sand, they play volleyball or cricket, or just hang out with their friends. So, it’s a sort of fun place to be when you’re a child, and as you keep growing up it keeps being one of those things that attracts you.
And so, did you… Did you have a deep understanding of what Australia Day was based on and meant when you were growing up as a kid? Was it taught at school?
No. As a young child, it was sort… ‘taught’ is probably exaggerating the amount of effort that was put into it. I think it was sort of mentioned. And we studied a lot of Australian history, either informally or formally, at primary school, and then if you were doing Australian history, or in fact history, you did Australian history as part of that at high school. But, Australia Day, as such, was not really celebrated from an historic point of view. There wasn’t an understanding of where it came from and those sort of things. And in fact, it’s a funny one, because the current date that we celebrate Australia Day on is celebrating, for want of a better term, or at least it’s recognising, the date that Arthur Philip in the first fleet arrived in Australia and settled, and it wasn’t Australia at the time, it was called New South Wales, which is now a state. So, it became the colony and that colony ended up becoming the state of the country. So, Australia didn’t exist. It wasn’t like we created Australia on that date. It was just a date that Europeans, white English people, celebrated that day. So, our challenge has always been that that has become the national holiday. But Australia Day, as a holiday, was not always on that date. 100 years ago, it was celebrated in July. It has also been celebrated on other days, apparently, as well. And so, the concept of a national holiday to celebrate us as a nation I think is one that is highly laudable and it’s a useful thing to do. We all like to celebrate, we all like a holiday, and celebrating our history and culture as a nation is a good thing to do. Whether that date is the right date is the current argument politically that’s going on around Australia at the moment?
So, can you summarise that, I guess, from both sides at all? Why is it controversial having Australia Day on the 26th of January?
Well, as I said, you know, we celebrate it as the date of the creation of the colony in New South Wales in what is now the city of Sydney. Indigenous people, many indigenous people, call it ‘Invasion Day’, because that’s the day that Europeans came and landed in the country and stayed. There had been Europeans coming here previously, but yeah, they were exploring or they just landed by accident. They hadn’t come to create a home. And Europeans did in the part of the English did the 26th of January in 1788. And so, we are celebrating that date, and it is rightful, a reasonable celebration, for a proportion of the population, but the people who are… the indigenous people and those who identify either as or with indigenous people, feel that it is not an appropriate day to have a holistic view of the celebration of Australia, because for them, it was the day that their culture got invaded and all of the horrendous things that happened to their culture afterwards are not worthy of celebrating on that day. So, that’s one side of that argument. The other side of the argument is that it’s Australia day and therefore it should be celebrated. The challenge we have at the moment is that, and the thing that irritates me particularly among some of the conservative commentators and politicians, is that they are criticising people who are claiming that Australia Day should not be on that day, but conflating that with an argument saying “it’s on Australian, how can you, you know, argue about Australia Day.
…Want to change it?
And as far as I’ve read and seen, nobody is saying we shouldn’t have Australia Day. They’re simply saying it shouldn’t be on that date. And so, the conflating argument is always around, you know, it’s un-Australian to criticise Australia Day. The people who are criticising it are not criticising Australia Day as a concept, they’re criticising having it on that date. And I think we have to look at that argument from both sides, and people will be sensitive no matter which side they look at.
I guess, it’s difficult, isn’t it, when you’ve grown up and it’s tradition, and, you know, it would be like shifting Christmas for some people. And, that’s where… like, I can at least understand, I guess, that side of the argument where it’s not even about what that day may have represented 170-200 years ago, but it’s more about what it represents for them and their lives and their personal history with that day.
Yeah, look, I agree.
That’s hard to suddenly be… You can’t just sort of change Christmas and then be like, “Yay! It’s the fourth of October! I can’t wait for this!”. It would not have the same gravity I feel.
No. You’re right. But the real challenge with it is that there hasn’t been a longstanding set of that date. It’s longer than most people who’re alive. So, you know, you’ve always celebrated Australia Day as the 26th of January. In my memory, I think I always have as well, but it’s not like that was constituted in stone when Australia was created. In 1901, when we federated Australia, we didn’t decide on a national holiday then. We had a national holiday, and we used it, but it’s become the 26th of January after that.
Well that meant nothing to the other colonies, right?
And in fact, Australia Day now is a constituted holiday. It’s written into our laws. It would have to be changed, if we’re no longer going to call it Australia Day and move to another day. But that was very recent. That’s only in the last 30 years or so, I think. You can look up the date. I’m not sure. But I remember it happening. And so, there is this challenge of, do we move day because a few people, and ‘it’s a few’, is there’re still 100,000s, if not millions who object to it, as opposed to those who object to it moving. I suspect that the large majority of people who sit in the middle are not passionate about either side of the argument and don’t really care. And that’s one of the challenges you have when you have the two extremes on both sides of an argument arguing about it but most people don’t care, then it’s really hard to move and make something happen if most people don’t care, because they end up just getting sick of both sides of the argument, because they see them both as extreme.
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So, what advice would you have for listeners or viewers at the moment, if they’re about to celebrate their first Australia Day, how did they do it?
Yeah, I think the best thing about Australia Day is find what do you think of when you think of Australian culture. If you want to be the Aussie okker bloke and sheila, to use some slang, which is probably getting a little bit out of date by now, but, then there are traditional things around the beach and sport and barbecues and hanging out with your friends and doing those sorts of things. But we do that at Christmas. Americans do it at Thanksgiving and Christmas. And there’s all sorts of national holidays around the world and other holidays where people do those sorts of things. So, I think for Australia Day, it is really about doing what you think of when you think of Australia, and I know certainly here, we probably won’t go to a sporting event, but we might go to the beach.
That’s it. That’s about it.
And we’re probably have… either have friends around here for lunch or dinner time or we’ll go to their place or something.
Have a barbie.
We’ll have a barbie, exactly, depending on the weather. But Australian summers, or certainly southern Australian summers being fickle, it looks like it will be quite warm and whatever on Friday, but it may well be, you know, 18 degrees and pouring with rain, which is not exactly barbecue weather, but that’s not going to stop us getting together and having fun.
Oh, awesome. Well, dad, thank you so much for joining me on the podcast.
Thanks Pete any time.
No worries. Happy Australia.
Happy Australia Day. Enjoy it, whatever you’re doing.
See ya. guys.
Alright guys, I hope you enjoy that interview. A special thanks to my father for coming on the podcast. I’ve done quite a few episodes with him recently, although, I haven’t yet uploaded any of them. So, there’s quite a few things that I have chatted to him about, and I am sure that you guys are going to hear from him in the future. He’s one of those guys who seems to have an opinion on everything, but also know a great deal about pretty much everything. So, stay tuned and you’ll probably hear from dad in the future.
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